Taproot 234 Posted September 10, 2019 I happened to check my account today and the 2020 version is now available (for Service Select members at least). 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Kevin McAllister 1,147 Posted September 10, 2019 I had checked for a 2020 license earlier today thinking it was either this week or next that it would appear. Just checked again and its now there. As you say, it seems the rollout is happening tonight.... Downloading it now. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post
TKA 26 Posted September 10, 2019 wait a minute, there is no orchestra and singing praises for the new release, just a silent spy like appearance??? Quote Share this post Link to post
Kevin K 126 Posted September 10, 2019 Well.....my head is slowly shaking back and forth. This will be the first year that I will not be upgrading to a new version. Same old issues and tools not working as they should. A new barn door option....really???? that's IT?? I was raised that if you don't have something good to say about something, or someone, you just keep quiet. Very hard for me to do as it turns out, but this time I will keep quiet. I had such high hopes. Oh well. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Bas Vellekoop 171 Posted September 10, 2019 https://www.vectorworks.net/en-US/2020 A shame that the window and door tools are still lacking, but the history based modeling tools are going to make 3D-modeling so much easier and faster. This will have a big positive impact on my workflow! 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Andrew Davies 141 Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) That's odd - I can only download Vision 2020 Suddenly changed - downloading now. Must have caught the website just as it was being updated Edited September 10, 2019 by Andrew Davies Quote Share this post Link to post
Andrew Davies 141 Posted September 10, 2019 Ohh.... dark mode! Not a full UI re-vamp but a step in the right direction! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Christiaan 849 Posted September 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Taproot said: I happened to check my account today and the 2020 version is now available (for Service Select members at least). Well spotted! Quote Share this post Link to post
Christiaan 849 Posted September 10, 2019 Some of my favourites: Dark Mode for Mac RAL colour palettes PDF optimisation Improved Notes Manager Improved Title Block History-based modelling IFC referencing In-line editing of list interfaces like the nav palette Collapsible grouping of settings the OIP Early signs that the door/window tools are getting some love going forwards. Not a fan at all of the naming of "Barn Door" (would have preferred Wall Mounted Slider) but the implementation is great. Looking forward to the rest of the door/window tool getting this sort of treatment. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Sebastiaan 73 Posted September 10, 2019 DWG export of rotated lighting instruments works properly now. Thank you developement team!! DMX patching is a pleasant surprise too! Quote Share this post Link to post
twk 232 Posted September 10, 2019 Good spotting guys. There's no mention of this anywhere on the socials. Quote Share this post Link to post
Markvl 187 Posted September 10, 2019 I had a sneaking suspicion that this version wasn't going to be something to celebrate. Maybe there will be some hidden gems but I won't hold my breathe. I suppose I do like the updated history based modeling, the updated data tags and the walk-thru animation tool. I'm at a point where I'm starting to feel like upgrading next year will not be worth it. I guess I need to trust that I don't know all the ins and outs of upgrading certain tools. How hard can it be to upgrade the stair tool and doors and windows? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Christiaan 849 Posted September 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Markvl said: Maybe there will be some hidden gems Stability on SP0 release? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Asemblance 33 Posted September 10, 2019 Is there somewhere with an official list of all the new/changed features? Surprised how this has snuck out today, can't see our office bothering to upgrade for a good while based on what I've seen so far.. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Christiaan 849 Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) https://www.vectorworks.net/en-GB/2020 https://www.vectorworks.net/ebooks/Whats-New-in-Vectorworks-2020-Brochure Edited September 10, 2019 by Christiaan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ptoner 26 Posted September 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Asemblance said: Is there somewhere with an official list of all the new/changed features? Surprised how this has snuck out today, can't see our office bothering to upgrade for a good while based on what I've seen so far.. Yep, we will be leaving this upgrade until at least service pack 4, going by previous experiences. Quote Share this post Link to post
barkest 154 Posted September 10, 2019 Overall there are some 'bits' that are useful and will save time. Graphics improvement is a big one and the modelling history will reduce the back and forth. Some elements I was hoping for, although in reality not expecting, stair tool for example. On the surface an ok upgrade Quote Share this post Link to post
Christiaan 849 Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ptoner said: Yep, we will be leaving this upgrade until at least service pack 4, going by previous experiences. Our experience on macOS 10.14 is good so far. I'm also running v2020 on macOS 10.15 beta. Stability is good but there are a interface speed issues to deal with (in both v2019 and v2020) before macOS 10.15 is released. Edited September 10, 2019 by Christiaan Quote Share this post Link to post
fabrica 97 Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Christiaan said: Some of my favourites: Dark Mode for Mac RAL colour palettes PDF optimisation Improved Notes Manager Improved Title Block History-based modelling IFC referencing In-line editing of list interfaces like the nav palette Collapsible grouping of settings the OIP Early signs that the door/window tools are getting some love going forwards. Not a fan at all of the naming of "Barn Door" (would have preferred Wall Mounted Slider) but the implementation is great. Looking forward to the rest of the door/window tool getting this sort of treatment. worth the upgrade price?!!! I'm still in shock with how bad the icons in the menus look now .... look very old and amateurish.. (windows 95 ?) 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Andrew Davies 141 Posted September 10, 2019 I think it's typical to "Sneak it out" - makes sense to me. Don't want crashing servers. I echo @Christiaanlist so far - love the collapsable info palettes - but why on earth are they not implemented all the way through? Like may other features (tags last year) - they feel half baked. Callout tool info palette doesn't have any collapsable sections - why not? Quote Share this post Link to post
line-weight 727 Posted September 10, 2019 I just looked through the 'new features' brochure... got all hopeful about the door & window tool update, but it looks like it's fiddling round the edges instead of the complete rewrite of those tools that is urgently needed? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Andy Broomell 1,020 Posted September 10, 2019 The OpenGL speed improvements that were discussed in a Teaser Tuesday are immediately noticeable. I was able to load a complex model in OpenGL and navigate much more quickly than in previous versions, which is a welcomed improvement! All of the icons in the program were redrawn. Some for the better, some will take some getting used to. Looking forward to that full UI redesign some day! Quote Share this post Link to post
Asemblance 33 Posted September 10, 2019 Thanks @Christiaan - I can see there are actually a bunch of potentially useful items in the full update list - the less glamorous information management /IFC stuff sounds potentially very useful. But will depend on how well they have been implemented in reality versus the blurb. Quote Share this post Link to post
Jim W 71 Posted September 10, 2019 For over a decade at Vectorworks I wished for and dreamed of a Dark mode and it came out just months after I left!! *Shakes fist at the cruel sky* 10 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Markvl 187 Posted September 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jim W said: For over a decade at Vectorworks I wished for and dreamed of a Dark mode and it came out just months after I left!! *Shakes fist at the cruel sky* Mac only. Poo Quote Share this post Link to post