Traditional window schedules

[Christiaan]

We need to be able to generate traditional window schedules (vector-based as opposed to bitmaps) that fit on an A1 sheet and include dimensioned elevations of the windows/doors. Preferably all at the click of a button.

 

See also:

https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/64381-window-and-door-tool-maturity/

 

Edited April 27 by Christiaan

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Yes!

 

This would need a lot of careful thought and consultation to make sure it actually ends up with something useful though.

 

There are various different ways of setting up door/window schedules according to size of job and number of repeated elements. For example, on a small job with lots of bespoke doors and windows which are all different, I might have a table-type schedule, text only, listing each door along with ironmongery spec and so on, with the doors/windows shown in elevation within the main drawings.

 

On the other hand on a bigger job with system windows and repeated elements, I might have something like what's shown above, supplemented by an ironmongery schedule by "type" rather than door number.

[Christiaan]

Very much agree

[AlanW]

@ChristiaanHi, I have been producing window and door schedules the way you have shown them for the past 40 years and would love to be able to produce them automatically as part of the program.

As part of my fascination with Marionette and help from people on the forum i have got something that is getting close to my needs. I just need to be able to rotate the working plane and then the dimensions will generate automatically also. Maybe someone can figure this out while i am away from computers for the next 5 weeks.

 

See attached. What the marionette network does is pull all the windows out of a drawing and places them in a line enabling you to view from front and dimension in the annotation layer.  If you add or delete a window regenerate the network and all us updated, this is why the annotations need to travel in the design layer with the window objects.

Have a play and see what you can do to assist and maybe get to a final working solution.

File 003 has the beginnings of the ability to dimension the windows and as you can see it can be done, just need to rotate the working plane. Got sidetracked on other things and haven't got back to it, will play later

Window_Schedule_001.vwx

Window_Schedule_003.vwx

Edited May 19, 2017 by Alan Woodwell

[Christiaan]

Oh my god, that's amazing, I'll give it go over the weekend or early next week! How exciting, well done  

[Jonathan Pickup]

Allan, that is great. does it work with all windows and doors?

does it work with windoor?

[AlanW]

Jonathon this will work with both I just have to change the criteria of one of the nodes. Also with the new window insertion method being symbols it makes it easier, so you have to insert your window the new way from the dropdown not the old way.

Edited May 20, 2017 by Alan Woodwell

[Matt Overton]

Could this work similar to the new internal elevation tool?

Instead of wall elevations, it would produce a line of tightly cropped window elevations.

 

[Christiaan]

Alan, one thing we'd need would be the ability to call out windows that are 2D/3D Symbols, not just native window objects. Would this be possible somehow, even if we had to tag the symbols in some way?

[AlanW]

@ChristiaanI think so, it would be like creating custom door components you need to prefix the new symbol with wd-   and the symbol should call up. Just check with VW search criteria as windoor (AUS/NZ) will be different to VW window / door objects.

Actually I think this will work with any symbol, just change the criteria a start of network.

To discover what the criteria is go create schedule and view what option pop up, then try them.

[rgcn]

This is fantastic @Alan WoodwellI am looking forward to giving this a try!

 

Rob

[AlanW]

@rgcn@ChristiaanHi, this is the latest that dimensions all the windows also as it places them in a line. HTH, Any issues let me know. Must view in TOP for the viewport and not top/plan view.

Window_Schedule_170623_004_v2018.vwx

Edited November 30, 2017 by Alan Woodwell

[rgcn]

3 hours ago, Alan Woodwell said:

@rgcn@ChristiaanHi, this is the latest that dimensions all the windows also as it places them in a line. HTH, Any issues let me know. Must view in TOP for the viewport and not top/plan view.

Window_Schedule_170623_004_v2018.vwx

 

Thanks so much for the updated file!

 

Cheers,

Rob

[Fernanda Diaz]

Wow there's still so much to learn. I'm a VW beginner and I have no idea how this works =/ would anyone reccommend a tutorial for using this marionette tool?

[JMR]

I think Archicad has this capability, a video back from 2013:

 

Something like this with the ability to lista data beneath the windows would be great indeed.

 

What we do currently; we generate a simple front elevation from each window type, and then have all the dimensions and other data in a pretty massive worksheet. In the elevation sheet there is as little information as possible.

 

This works well enough, but doesn't work for complex system windows, as mentioned previously, only for simple windows that one is able to generate in 3D with the VW window tool (we don't/can't have Windoor!!  #¤%!).

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, JMR said:

simple windows that one is able to generate in 3D with the VW window tool (we don't/can't have Windoor!!  #¤%!).

 

 

 

 

 

I'd say that generally once you get to the point of making window schedules, you're quite likely well beyond the level of detail that you can fudge with the hopeless VW window tool.

[Christiaan]

As of v2021 this thread can be moved to Wishes Granted 😃

 

See Big BIM presentation by Rubina, 2:50 mins in:

https://www.vectorworks.net/design-summit/virtual-keynote

[Matt Panzer]

3 hours ago, Christiaan said:

As of v2021 this thread can be moved to Wishes Granted 😃

 

See Big BIM presentation by Rubina, 2:50 mins in:

https://www.vectorworks.net/design-summit/virtual-keynote

 

Hi @Christiaan,

 

The features shown in Ruby's video are features we're currently investigating, or working on for a future release.  This does not mean these will be released in Vectorworks 2021.

[Ruby S]

4 hours ago, Christiaan said:

As of v2021 this thread can be moved to Wishes Granted 😃

 

See Big BIM presentation by Rubina, 2:50 mins in:

https://www.vectorworks.net/design-summit/virtual-keynote

Hi Christian!

 

As Matt mentioned, the features that I highlighted are not necessarily implemented for 2021.  This was to give everyone a better idea of some short term projects we'll be be undertaking for future releases.

Thanks!

 

Ruby

[Christiaan]

Oh damn, sorry about that guys, missed that bit and got overly excited. Really cool to see you're working on that 👌🏼

[fabrica]

@Ruby S very good presentation btw. 

 

pity the features not for 2021....

 

 

[Matt Overton]

On 4/24/2020 at 10:54 PM, Christiaan said:

As of v2021 this thread can be moved to Wishes Granted 😃

 

See Big BIM presentation by Rubina, 2:50 mins in:

https://www.vectorworks.net/design-summit/virtual-keynote

But don't just skip to 2:50 because OMG "3D Grid"!!!!

which sadly 😞 doesn't cover Elevation benchmark as that is on the future tease list. 

Still materials Yay so trying not to be greedy. 

 

Which does include a curious "Unit Plan Object" which I then thought might not be what I first thought it was and could be something far far more useful.  

[Christiaan]

Just going to put this here

 

 

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Is another thing where there's a useful tool that you're only allowed to have if you are in a certain region?

[DBrown]

On 9/19/2020 at 1:47 PM, Christiaan said:

Just going to put this here

 

 

Yet another example of the sort-sighted vision on Vectorworks, this is an amazing windows and door tool, but alas, not for everybody...

Edited September 22, 2020 by DBrown