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Almost every time VW gets stuck in the "meditation mode", the task manager (Windows) reveals CPU utilization is at 4-5%. Which means single core...

Wow....quite a difference: Over here (Finland) the monthly subscription for the collaboration version is 492e+VAT, annually billed 3444e+ VAT (about 287e/month+VAT). As a side note, running just 5 AC's with the cheaper, annually billed subscription would cost (per month) more than the rent for our 180m2 office space...

Just checked with the local AC vendor and you are right...they are selling standalone licenses only for old customers, and only until the end of the year. In future everything will be subscription. Monthly subscription for the collaboration version is 492e+VAT(!), annually billed 3444e+ VAT works out to about 287e+VAT per month (these are Finland prices). It was just a few years ago when the annual maintenance for existing AC license was about 1000e+VAT. It seems they have really "turned the volume knobs" to the max...VW doesn't seem that expensive any longer considering the AC price hikes.

Archicad is still available as a "traditional" licence + a "VSS" equivalent, which, unless prices or conditions have changed very recently, was about the same price as VW subscription (only option from now on for new users), if looking at a 10-year period. Btw training someone from zero to a new program is a significant cost. Personally I don't want to change but we are considering which option is the best for the future of our company.

Regarding VW and the architectural industry, this really baffles me: In most countries Archicad and Revit very much dominate the industry software market. How then can VW increase its market share by becoming equally, or almost equally expensive as the softwares that already make up 85-95 percent of the market sales? Growth must be one of the goals of any company...right? In order to be able to do that in a saturated situation, the product should then be absolutely stellar, if the price is about the same. I've done some spreadsheets and Archicad is just about equally priced, if one looks at a ten-year period. Based on today's prices and models since we don't know about those of tomorrow. I'm not sure switching to a pricey-ish subscription model was the right strategic decision for VW.

Links are buggy in PC environment, too...the link is suddenly lost, materials replaced in the middle of everything and whatnot. Sometimes it works fine.

Bummer....I can replicate the above both in 2023 and 2025 Design Suite: It appears that the first time the symbol and the symbol within symbol are created and placed, the Space is detected correctly, but if one moves things around, the worksheet will get stuck in the first calculation...very strange. Trying for a 2nd time...now I get SOME of the objects to the worksheet, but not all: moving symbols makes the worksheet to lose track of the objects: We've used this function extensively for scheduling, and so far haven't noticed anything strange...but we have been scheduling symbols and not geometry inside them. Looks like a bug...?

Here you go, it's a VW 2023 file. E SPACE NAME TEST.vwx

The file is VW 2023.

I am...in this case there are symbols within symbols that are listed.

It doesn't, it's just that I've had so many issues with exporting and syncing to different rendering programs, over the years...if I was to find a rock-solid solution via another application, that would be great. Speaking of which, has someone found a particular external renderer that works great with VW? I've used mostly Twinmotion with VW but find the export somewhat buggy, also the user interface is very peculiar IMHO.

Hi, The function does work, check that you have this ticked in the worksheet criteria: Also, the elevation of the object must be exactly at the same elevation as the space object: if your space object Z is 3500, then the symbol has to be at that height as well. If I remember correctly, the function is also aware of the 3D dimensions of the space object (if you have it set), sometimes one can get double spaces and in that case they usually are overlapping in 3D. Or, you might have two flat space objects at the same elevation. Hope this helps.

At least in Finland, but I think the requirement is based on some EU directive -> probably will propagate more widely.

It's going to be some kind of database of the objects and data, I assume something like a .CSV file generated from the model. The exact requirements have not yet been published, AFAIK.

Yes, a quickish rendering in Rhino / Maxwell. Thanks.