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Black line appearing in final render in viewport

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I have created a site model with 3d modelling for a landscape.  It works well, but when I render in viewport I am getting a black line appearing along the line of one element of the drawing.  This is always the last part of the drawing to render and the line appears on top of everything else. Anyone any ideas what this can be?  I've deleted all layers that I was not using. Screenshot attached. 

 

Thanks

 

Helen.

 

 

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Do you have 'Display Planar Objects' enabled in that viewport's properties on the OIP? If so - disable it and then update the viewport, hopefully the black lines will no longer be visible.

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If rDesign's idea of switching off the Display Planar Objects does not solve or is not satisfactory, try to find and select the 2d poly. Then delete it or move it to another layer or make it invisible. 2d objects always render on top of 3d objects, even if they are moved to back or are on layers lower in the layer order. (assumes Unified View is enabled)

 

I'm guessing that the offending black line(s) is a 2d poly coincident with the 3d extrude of the concrete walkway, and it's layer/class assignments are visible in the VP layer and class settings - probably same Layer/Class as the 3d walkway object.  To find the 2d poly, sequentially switch off layers in the VP until the poly disappears - that's the layer.  Activate that layer and view it in Top/Plan with Active Only visibility.  Hold the J key and select an edge where the 2d poly is likely to reside. A dialog appears listing all the objects in the stack and their types (Extrude, Polyline, etc). Click the likely item/row in the list to highlight the corresponding object the drawing. Dismiss the dialog to reveal the object selected in the drawing. In OIP, move this object to a layer or class which is invisible in the VP, or if you don't need it, delete it.

 

It is possible that the top edge and the bottom edge of the walkway were originally represented as separate, coincident (stacked) 2d objects. I find this often in dwg imports.  If one poly was used in vwx as source for the 3d walkway extrusion, the other 2d poly would remain on the design layer and would display in the VP.

 

OK, post back if no joy.

 

-B

 

 

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If it is not what has been suggested above, I've seen a few instances recently of these types of lines appearing on viewports if Indirect Lighting is enabled in the viewport's lighting options. This is uninstentional but worth checking by doing a test render with Indirect Lighting set to None.

Also, which version of Vectorworks, what service pack, and what operating system are you using?

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Thanks for all the suggestions.  I've turned off display planar objects and that makes no difference.

 

I've deleted anything which might have been a 2d shape of any kind. The boardwalk is a hardscape object with 150mm thickness and a pad modifier, bottom edge.  The dark line appears to be showing the site modifier along the bottom edge of the hardscape. It's also appearing under a road polyline which is also set to modify the site model below.  

 

If I turn off indirect lighting I still get the same effect.  

 

I don't get the effect in open GL render, just in the final render works style. 

 

I'm running Landmark with renderworks 2017 SP2 and SP3 (2 machines) MacBook Pro and iMac.  Same effect on both.

 

 

Any more advice?

 

thanks

 

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I think you can set the site modifier pad class to invisible and still have the effect of the site modifier visible.

 

paul

 

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Excellent Paul, that tip worked.  I hadn't realised that the modifiers could be turned off and still affect the site model.

 

thanks.

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On 3/26/2017 at 2:16 PM, Helen Palmer said:

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I just stopped by to say that this is a really cool artistic style you've got going on, very nice.

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Thanks Jim, it's taken a while and a lot of teeth gnashing to get this far, but pleased with the result.  Created from a site model from imported site survey.  The existing trees work well too.  58de9a3ee553e_ScreenShot2017-03-31at19_04_13.png.12e15dbab980bb6c75bcf7a565a316c3.png

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1 hour ago, JimW said:

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I know, right!?! amazing.

Thanks for sharing your work Helen, it's quite inspiring.

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Nice, H Palmer!  Thanks for the show.

 

Late entry here. PaulGs class solution is great. There is also a layer option. Site modifiers can be effective when placed on layers other than the site model layer. Those other design layers can be can be made invisible in View Port Layer options and still affect the Site Model. Layer effective options are found in flyout menu of Site Model OIP> Site Model Settings>Use Site Modifiers on (several layer options). For instance, a drawing could have a Pads & GradeLimits layer, a Texture Beds Layer,  a Site Model Layer, a Buildings layer, etc.Then use the Use Site Modifiers on All Layers option, but make the modifier layers invisible in the VP.

 

-B

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I totally agree with other comments of the stunning result you have achieved. Is this all done in Landmark? It would be interesting to discover some of the techniques you used as I am looking at purchasing an upgrade to landmark.

thanks again for sharing.

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Hi,

in this rendering appear (on the floor)  all the lines corresponding to the sections of  3d model (viewport).
The result is really disappointing ..
How can I fix it?

Thanks

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You need to select each of the Sections one by one and edit the Section Line Instances so they only appear in Viewports on Sheet Layers and do not appear on any Design Layers.

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Unticking "Display Planar Objects" AND making sure any site modifier or other 2D lines/polygons are on hidden class. That usually works for me!

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Im having this exact same issue.  Specifically only happens in custom render style not open GL.  I do not have any site modifiers tho?

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