VW2013 teaser...is this the best you've got...?

[Bob Holtzmann]

I refferd to these, see attached files

Dont have them in my vectorworks....

Actually Buzz, you do. One of them is the Rendering modes - they made the tea pot different. The other menu button looks like a "show light objects" toggle, or something like that.

[Bob Holtzmann]

Bob-H,

What about:

Live Sections

3D Hatching

Live Hidden Line Rendering

Should I waste my time and wait until Sept 18 or should I buy Revit now?

If that's what you want Kizza, you don't need my permission. Go for it!

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Background rendering for viewports is significant - I'll take continuing working in a Vw file, instead of watching the progress bar on the lower right corner any day.

I rather want other features, renders are here 1 to 2 minutes max. Plus I can't see how you could change objects that are rendering??? Or it's meant to be that you can render one document and work on another, that would be a different thing of course.

Edited September 6, 2012 by DWorks

[VincentCuclair]

... improved polyline tool?

Nah, it looks more like an image from Illustrator......

[Dieter @ DWorks]

... improved polyline tool?

Just the logo of the local dealer I think.

[VincentCuclair]

Are you enjoying all of this Tamsin? :grin:

[Christiaan]

http://www.vectorworks.net/evolve/

oooh...VSS members get a sneak peak it says.

That's not us. Anyone? Do you sign an NDA first....?

Na nah na nah na.

Says get a sneak peak "today" but also says "coming soon." Nothing on portal yet. No VSS-related NDA I know of.

[Christiaan]

Noticed that v2012 download files have disappeared today though:

http://serviceselect.vectorworks.net/downloads/application-release

[Bob Holtzmann]

Are you enjoying all of this Tamsin? :grin:

I thought they were tossing us a bone with showing us rendered views while panning in plan view. If there were more in the video about navigating in rendered 3D views, it might make the needle slightly jump on the "woo hoo" meter.

[Bas Vellekoop]

This could be fun!

Edited September 6, 2012 by Buzz Lightyear

[Bas Vellekoop]

And there is a new round cursor?

Edited September 6, 2012 by Buzz Lightyear

[Christiaan]

Shame comments are disabled on Vectorworks YouTube videos. Scared of the rabble?

[Alan H]

This could be fun!

I like that one!

That will save a lot of time, wonder it it works with The EAP command too I presume it would?

[Peter van der Elst]

Well, this actually looks interesting!! So this should work with roofs as well!! So maybe one of my wishes is finally granted..

[Dieter @ DWorks]

This could be fun!

If it is available in VS to include such a mechanic inside custom pio's, then this is a real killer because it means a whole lot of code can be gone! So please let this be true.

[VincentCuclair]

And there is a new round cursor?

Yeah, I noticed that too...perhaps an attempt to fix part of the whole Screen/Layer/Automatic Planes hash....?!

[Kevin McAllister]

And there is a new round cursor?

Yeah, I noticed that too...perhaps an attempt to fix part of the whole Screen/Layer/Automatic Planes hash....?!

He's rotating objects at the time (by typing in an angle but it still means the rotate tool is active).

Intuitive 3D rotate would be great.

Kevin

[grant_PD]

Very cool. I can return to hybrid symbols again, since they now look usable.

[Christiaan]

Does anyone get the feeling this also means live sections/plans?

[bc]

Not me. But I have greatly lowered my expectations.

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Does anyone get the feeling this also means live sections/plans?

Totally not.

After seeing the video over and over again, because I was very excited, I'm again dissapointed, and here's why:

In the video, Cris is saying that it's a plug-in object with 3D objects in it and that the only thing the plug-in object does is creating the 2D part of the 3D objects. This means that it isn't like symbols at all, which I though it was at first. This means no worksheet data like symbols, no usage like symbols, no usage in walls like symbols, no extra data, no linking between text and data, no IFC data, ...

This had to be a feature they needed to make part of the symbol object that already exists, not a new plug-in.

Although you could use this plug-in inside a symbol, you can't change the height of the section plane symbol per symbol, so at the end, it only makes our life just a little bit easier because we don't need to draw the 2D part, if we can get good results of course.

This is yet another example of the many many features that are getting introduced into VW half-baked, and never to work on it again untill they find another half-baked feature to replace it. Anyone remember wall recesses? (A functionality that is easier and better done with symbols, except the height changing for the 2D part) If only NVW would throw that and this auto hybrid togheter then put it in the symbol object, then we would have a great feature! And only a symbol object, instead of 3 kind of objects that only does some parts that are meant to be togheter.

Also the use of this will be very very minimal in architecture.

Edited September 6, 2012 by DWorks

[Alan H]

This had to be a feature they needed to make part of the symbol object that already exists, not a new plug-in.

Oh I thought it was part of the symbol...that is very disappointing!!!

[Bas Vellekoop]

Does anyone get the feeling this also means live sections/plans?

Totally not.

After seeing the video over and over again, because I was very excited, I'm again dissapointed, and here's why:

In the video, Cris is saying that it's a plug-in object with 3D objects in it and that the only thing the plug-in object does is creating the 2D part of the 3D objects. This means that it isn't like symbols at all, which I though it was at first. This means no worksheet data like symbols, no usage like symbols, no usage in walls like symbols, no extra data, no linking between text and data, no IFC data, ...

This had to be a feature they needed to make part of the symbol object that already exists, not a new plug-in.

Although you could use this plug-in inside a symbol, you can't change the height of the section plane symbol per symbol, so at the end, it only makes our life just a little bit easier because we don't need to draw the 2D part, if we can get good results of course.

This is yet another example of the many many features that are getting introduced into VW half-baked, and never to work on it again untill they find another half-baked feature to replace it. Anyone remember wall recesses? (A functionality that is easier and better done with symbols, except the height changing for the 2D part) If only NVW would throw that and this auto hybrid togheter then put it in the symbol object, then we would have a great feature! And only a symbol object, instead of 3 kind of objects that only does some parts that are meant to be togheter.

Also the use of this will be very very minimal in architecture.

Can you elaborate about why it isnt useful when you make a symbol of it?

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Can you elaborate about why it isnt useful when you make a symbol of it?

I haven't said it isn't usefull, there are just limitations that makes it less usefull than it could have been: You can't change the height of the section plane from instance to instance, so you need to make different symbols for different section planes, so your worksheets will have more complex formulas to get all these symbols, ...

NVW should really start to create a whole package of things that work togheter and not a collection of things that aren't working thogether to it's fullest.

Edited September 6, 2012 by DWorks

[Bob Holtzmann]

So it looks like Wes is next up to bat.