VW2013 teaser...is this the best you've got...?

[Christiaan]

Behold: http://www.vectorworks.net/2013/

[Kevin McAllister]

Full 3d perspective is indeed welcome!

And I agree with DWorks, there's much focus on lighting design. I know that the new tools apply to architecture as well, but for teasers I would have shown an architectural example as well. The rendering stuff doesn't do me much (Arroway Textures etc.) as I render with V-ray in sketchup but it will probably please a lot of people. Anyway, my focus will be on the architectural tools and I hope there's some new and exciting news on that front. As I said earlier, the demo I got from Archicad sure got me thinking...

LiveDesignOnline is an Entertainment Design publication which probably explains the bias.....

Kevin

[Christiaan]

"New non-blocking rendering."

Is this what I think it is? We can stop a one building casting shadows on another perhaps?

Turns out this is background rendering. That is you can continue doing other stuff. Huge time saver.

[starling75]

yesssss!

http://www.vectorworks.net/2013/feature_media.php?handleOversize=none&title=This%20is%20the%20Title&width=960&height=540&movie=Nfv-2013-images-on-worksheets

(http://techboard.vectorworks.net/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=31990&Number=157302#Post157302)

Edited September 18, 2012 by starling75

[Christiaan]

I just saw that one too but it's not vector-based, so you can't dimension the window elevations. Argh, so close!!

[Chris D]

No 3D hatches for vector-based elevations....no sale.

[Bob Holtzmann]

Big thumbs up on the worksheets with images!

The Home Page just updated:

http://www.vectorworks.net/

[Christiaan]

No 3D hatches for vector-based elevations....no sale.

Yeah I was looking for that.

[Dieter @ DWorks]

I like some improvements, but I really don't have a good feeling about this release. Maybe toninghts presentation will up my feelings.

It seems they don't work enough on the bim tools, and that's what is needed the most, look at the forums.

I really mis the added attributes for a seperate section and plan view or attributes for materials for classes. So I'm stuck with duplicated classes for both the material/section and plan/visible view of objects, and the added dificulty of this for creating both 2d and 3d view of objects.

Edited September 18, 2012 by DWorks

[Christiaan]

Big thumbs up on the worksheets with images!

Thumbs down for being bitmaps instead of vector-based.

[Chris D]

There's some proper juicy stuff in there, I'll give them that.

And I recall most of those features being added to the wishlist too...so it looks like they do listen...but can't quite act fast enough..

[Christiaan]

so it looks like they do listen...but can't quite act fast enough..

That's exactly what I was thinking. When I see them I want to say: you're heading in the right direction, just not nearly fast enough.

[Christiaan]

And worst new feature goes to: custom shutter widths to windows so you can put purely decorative shutters on your house.

Ha! If you're putting these things on somebody's house you shouldn't be practicing architecture!

[Dieter @ DWorks]

No roof components....

[Christiaan]

Big thumbs up on the worksheets with images!

Thumbs down for being bitmaps instead of vector-based.

Or is it? The Architect video says they can be hidden line. In any case they won't be to scale so still not possible to dimension.

[Christiaan]

No roof components....

Yeah, I thought that was going to be a sure thing.

[Dieter @ DWorks]

We can order the sheet layers now, I wonder if they have thought about getting the order number inside a title block? Like you can with the shheet name and number. So that by reorganizing your sheets, your page numbers in your title blocks also updates. Because otherwise, I see no benefit over giving the sheet numbers a good alphabetical name.

Edited September 18, 2012 by DWorks

[starling75]

Big thumbs up on the worksheets with images!

Thumbs down for being bitmaps instead of vector-based.

Or is it? The Architect video says they can be hidden line. In any case they won't be to scale so still not possible to dimension.

... scaled image, no snap points probably..

Edited September 18, 2012 by starling75

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Big thumbs up on the worksheets with images!

Thumbs down for being bitmaps instead of vector-based.

Or is it? The Architect video says they can be hidden line. In any case they won't be to scale so still not possible to dimension.

... scaled image, no snap points probably..

They still will be just bitmaps like a rendered viewport is.

Edited September 18, 2012 by DWorks

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Also noticed that multithreading for hidden line renders is windows only?

[Kevin McAllister]

Also noticed that multithreading for hidden line renders is windows only?

I noticed that too. Its likely tied to the ongoing work to remove Quicktime and convert the Mac version to 64 bit. The interview in Architosh implied it was a two year process.

KM

[VincentCuclair]

- Detail VP updates automatically......wonder if that applies for all VPs?

- Auto Hybrid elevation height can be set....nice!

- Surface array sounds a bit like 3D bump maps, together with faster, stand alone rendering, perhaps a substitute for 3D hatches in some cases?

- Inner boundary mode for the slab tool......that was needed....

- I wonder what they mean with 'Wall re-engineering'?

Edited September 18, 2012 by Vincent C

[Bob Holtzmann]

They still will be just bitmaps like a rendered viewport is.

It appears the worksheet's 3D symbol images were grabbed from the Resource Browswer, as openGL renderings. It would be interesting to know if the images in the worksheet can be updated, if the symbol changes - especially for resized windows and doors. Also, I don't know how plug-in doors and windows fit into the mix - perhaps they have to be made into symbols, too.

[Tom Klaber]

Hands down the best feature is the background rendering. That could double my productivity. I will miss the forced breaks, but when a deadline is approaching I will never again have to choose between working on my elevation or rendering.

[starling75]

Is the 2013 trial already available?

http://www.vectorworks.net/trial

I have got only wv 2011 "offer"