bc Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 The other one is called Clip Cube and it allows you to isolate any arbitrary area of your model (via a cube shape) in order to work on it with everything else invisible. Very very handy. Look forward to testing the implementation. Exactly what Dr. Digitalmechanics ordered....hopefully. Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I noticed that the Clip Cube had objects auto-highlighting, giving credence to whether or not the objects are editable. We'll need to have that verified, but it looks like we've got a feature similar to what Revit users have been boasting about. Quote Link to comment
Alan H Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Maybe they haven't provided a live section tool. I didn't see anything regarding live viewports on the menu option, if they have implemented this it may be part of the section viewport or somewhere else maybe as a tool? However,there seems to be an additional Viewport in the menu called - Create Multiple viewports, I wonder what that is going to be or work? Edited September 7, 2012 by Alan H Quote Link to comment
Kizza Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Yeah the clip cube feature does seem to suggest an underlying technology that would allow for live sections/plans (like the auto hybrid tech). On the other hand notice the Clip Cube doesn't actually draw a section of any objects it's slicing through, it just shows it blank. Im not a VSS subscriber so haven't seen the new videos but maybe it's blank, or turned off deliberately to keep us drooling. Clip Cube certainly sounds promising. So far we've got improved graphics and possibly some sort of implementation of live sections. Just need the 3D and elevation hatches to be sorted now... Edited September 7, 2012 by Kizza Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 The intriguing thing about the detail viewport which was not shown in the video was the linked tags that keep track of the location of the view port - auto coordinating the drawing set. I hope this is true. How ReVit. Quote Link to comment
Peter van der Elst Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 And unfortunately as a dutch VSSsubscriber I can't see the US portion of the site? > Quote Link to comment
Bas Vellekoop Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Can you guys post some screen post? Or a video of the video, haha. Have vss as well, but havent recieved the inlog information..... Very curious about the video's Quote Link to comment
Bas Vellekoop Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 No new video`s? And nobody wants to post a screenshot? Quote Link to comment
Bas Vellekoop Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 There is a 'new'one about the clip cube feature, looks nice. In the menu you can see "start batch render".... Quote Link to comment
Vincent C Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Nice drafting aid, however I wonder how clickable objects are on the actual cut, notice how objects disappear as opposed to a section view representation appearing......what happens for example when you want to see if 3 or 4 roof objects actually lie one on top of the other and don't overlap when manually creating roofs with multiple components? i.e.. you can forget about live section viewports me thinks. Edited September 10, 2012 by Vincent C Quote Link to comment
Dieter @ DWorks Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) you can forget about live section viewports me thinks. I think that too. It seems that the clip cube just shows/hide objects by their position and by the user hiding extra objects from them. So it's more of another way of viewing things like saved views. It isn't anything like a live section at all. You'll need the entire object in the cube to see it and being able to edit it. For large objects like we have in architecture, this isn't a great feature at all. It is good to view only one house in a row of house for example, but then, multiple houses in the same file isn't the workflow NVW suggests. edit: That doesn't mean I don't like it, I find it a good feature, but not one that we can use at a great extent in architecture, but much better than the previous teased features. If they keep working on this for the next version, maybe then it will be a live section cube. Edited September 10, 2012 by DWorks Quote Link to comment
Kevin McAllister Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I'm not sure that the whole object needs to be in the cube to see it. I just watched the video again and there are many objects split by the cube. And I'm glad it doesn't necessarily show a section of an object at the clip line. This extra geometry would often be in the way when editing. This is exactly the type of tool I was looking for for working in the 3D model. I recently modelled a rosette scaffolding structure that sat diagonally across the audience rake of a stadium. It was very challenging to see where legs were intersecting the audience rake as it stepped up so I could set them at the correct heights. I ended up cutting many static sections through the model to do it. I'm curious to know what the clip cube options might include. Hopefully it can be placed on an angle and perhaps you can turn whether it shows an object section on and off. Now that would be pretty cool. Kevin Quote Link to comment
Dieter @ DWorks Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I'm not sure that the whole object needs to be in the cube to see it. I just watched the video again and there are many objects split by the cube. Seems I was wrong. but the question still is if we can edit the objects that are split by the cube? Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 My guess is you can select and edit anything that's visible. Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 The seeming ease that the box is modified, points to live sections. I though the whole point of the move to the parasolid modeling kernel was features such as this. I was less interested in the push pull - which was cool but I never use it in practice, but I could use better sectioning power. Quote Link to comment
Kizza Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 To me the clip cube seems to be an adjustable view range, useful for elevational views, sectional views and 3D views. I wonder how it would work in top/plan view i.e. could you use it to show objects say on a split level floorplan? I think this feature looks promising. If the clip cube operates outside of the viewport environment, then one would assume that objects would be editable within the clip cube! Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I think it is simply meant to make modeling easier. Sometimes I will have, for example, the kitchen of my model on its own layer for no other reason except that it is hard to navigate, select, and see what I am doing when the rest of the geometry is in the way. With the clip cube, you select an object you want to edit - or one near by - and press the button and it will simplify the view by making invisible everything outside the cube. I do not think it is for viewing as much as it is for editing, but as others have pointed out, it seems to signal the capability to do live sections. I am still more excited by the auto coordinating detail tags. Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) I am interested in finding out if the 3D cube, in an oblique 3D view, can be shown in a Sheet Layer Viewport. This would be great for showing a kitchen cabinet layout as an oblique overhead view showing more 3D information. Sometimes a RW Camera view does not show enough of a small area like a kitchen, because the camera is confined to a room or adjacent room. This approach would be done on a design layer by putting a Cropping Cube around a Design Layer Viewport model, if possible. Edited September 11, 2012 by Bob-H Quote Link to comment
Dieter @ DWorks Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) To me the clip cube seems to be an adjustable view range, useful for elevational views, sectional views and 3D views. My guess is that this will work on design layers, but not in viewports on sheet layers, so it will do nothing for elevations etc... Like you say: just an adjustable view range, nothing more, nothing less. Edited September 11, 2012 by DWorks Quote Link to comment
Kizza Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 It'll be interesting to see how this feature is fully implemented. Hopefully the clip cube will allow some form of control on how elevations are presented, as well as sections. Like Kevin Lee said, there are a number of features associated with the clip cube which weren't delved into. Fingers crossed... Quote Link to comment
Alan H Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 How do VW normally release the Preview videos. Do they normally release videos towards the end of each week or is it sporadic? I assume they have some architect/building designer beta testers? it would be interesting to see what their best bits of 2013 would be! Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 See here: Maybe one more to come. Quote Link to comment
Alan H Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 See here: Maybe one more to come. Thanks, So they only have one more to come.....I thought these where the warm ups before they started to show the good stuff..... Looks like i am going to be very disappointed with 2013 then! Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I would imagine these are the warm ups and that the big items won't be released until the 18th. Quote Link to comment
Alan H Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Great, so there still might be a chance for my top 3 then :smile: 1. Materials 2. Live sections 3. Improved window and door tool and schedules Quote Link to comment
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