seanSF&A Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Has anyone out there got a library of velux windows which are ready to be easily dropped into a roof. If not how do you make one? I have made one before but dont seem to be able to repeat it The one I made before is a Hybrid, and when I try and insert it, the PIO box wont let me uncheck the "dont insert symbol" check - box, which results in the hole for the rooflight but no rooflight. This awkwardness that still exists with the rooflight PIO needs to be addressed - it is just not intuitive or obvious how to create and edit rooflights. Thanks in anticipation Quote Link to comment
Dieter @ DWorks Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 if you want to insert a window in a roof, that SYMBOL must be only 3D!, you can't enter a hybrid symbol in a roof Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Here's my method, FWIW: First I cut a hole in the roof (or roof face), then I go to a side view and 'build' a 3d skylight. The sides of the skylight can be made easily from extrudes and the top as a very skinny extrude, with its texture set to "glass". I then group all the pieces together (and sometimes use the group to create a symbol). I can then duplicate and use the group (or symbol) again for additional instances. The reason I like this method is that I now have the skylight in plan, elevation and sections, and never need to draw it again... Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Sean, there are some that I made in the old symbols section at VectorDepot: http://www.vectordepot.com/Symbols1.shtml Quote Link to comment
Fredrik Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 These Velux symbols are very fine. I thougt they would make my day, but when I tried to insert them in a Roof face, this does not function like for a Roof! Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 They automatically insert into Roof Objects but not into Roof Faces. With Roof Faces you need to form the whole manually and then place the roof light object manually. Quote Link to comment
Carl Newton Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 (edited) Wouldn't it be nice if VWA had a 3d symbol library of roof lights from Velux, Lumen and the Roof light Company, after all it is a leading architectural cad program isn't it? Wouldn't it also be nice if the roof tool would accept them? Edited August 16, 2007 by Carl Newton Quote Link to comment
billtheia Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Wouldn't it be nice if VWA had a 3d symbol library of roof lights from Velux, Lumen and the Roof light Company, after all it is a leading architectural cad program isn't it? Wouldn't it also be nice if the roof tool would accept them? Yes it would. Quote Link to comment
Jeffrey W Ouellette Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 You all should know the drill by now... Add it to the Wishlist Discussion Area... Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 It's already on the wishlist: http://techboard.nemetschek.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=81095 Quote Link to comment
Alan H Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I see this post is a few years old now, is this still the best way to create roof lights? I am looking to create a smoke vent for a communal stair something like this: http://www.velux.co.uk/professionals/installation/smoke_ventilation Unfortunately this product isn't in the Vectorworks Library, so if this is the best way of inserting the roof lights i'll have a go at modeling it up. Quote Link to comment
taoist Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Velux skylights are in Libraries > Objects -Building Architecture and Interior. Quote Link to comment
Alan H Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Yes, There are some skylights there, but none meet the requirements I need to achieve. I guess that's the problem with having the library of fixed symbols is it can quickly become out of date or doesn't have the newer products by the manufacturer, unless it is frequently updated. I was looking for the smoke vent roof light as linked in my earlier post. Possibly a better solution in the long term would be a generic tool like the window tool where you can adjust the opening configurations to suit? Quote Link to comment
taoist Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 You all should know the drill by now... Add it to the Wishlist Discussion Area... Send to Tech Support as a suggestion. Quote Link to comment
gester Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 i know peter's post is already a few years ago, but how can i cut a hole in a roof for a velux window when the cutting shape has to be some kind of a pyramid with side walls vertical? i modelled cutting solids, but inevitably the roof loses its 'intelligence' and top skin feature. is there a good solution for this? thx, rob Quote Link to comment
bc Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 No. You'll have to bag the roof object and model it. Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Ungroup Roof into a bunch of Roof Faces. Go to Top/Plan View and draw square or rectangle for hole. Select Roof Face and Hole Shape and then Clip Surface. Now you have your hole.... Of course you no longer have a parametric Roof object. But it's pretty easy to add and clip from these... Quote Link to comment
bc Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Not sure that would achieve the shape he's after, Peter. I think he wants the splayed sides as per Velux suggestions. Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Oh, right. Oops! Well fwiw, I pretty much always start out using full thickness roofs, for initial design, then ungroup to roof faces, then eventually modify roof faces to represent sheathing and model all the rafters, trusses, etc. so I would pretty much model the splayed framing members anyhow, when I get to that stage. I guess the important thing is timing. If I have already ungrouped and modeled this level of detail I would hope that the client (or structural engineer) doesn't throw any major changes at me. And I always warn the client that changes at that stage are gonna be expensive (and generally piss me off). Not to say it doesn't happen... It happens a lot. I guess that's why it's called work. 1 Quote Link to comment
gester Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 thanks guys for your suggestions. i think i'll stick to the solid object instead of a roof (in spite of all troubles - f.i. the wall purlin is no more cutting the roof object). i have to give it a new skin yet. as for the rafters and purlins i find the framing tool with its settings very useful. i've just modified their dimensions and spacing, but i have them all in place in 3d, and it's a mere top plan manipulation. thx again. rob Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 You could create a window including the roof splayed sides as a symbol and insert the whole thing into the roof.? Quote Link to comment
gester Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 as i gradually understand it, i'll have to velux don't provide 3d models of their products... rob Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Perhaps this helps: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?clid=b77bdb9f068dcc8643036df45b608398 Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 You could create a window including the roof splayed sides as a symbol and insert the whole thing into the roof.? That's an interesting thought. I've gave up using the roof tools on my little refurb project though. Ended up modelling every single component (incl. finishes, insulation, rafters, roof tiles), which is a nightmare if I want to change anything. But the advantage is I can take a section/detail through anywhere without having to draw any 2D. Quote Link to comment
bc Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) Actually, Christiaan, I've come to expect that as the given workflow. Gester: "velux don't provide 3d models of their products..." FWIW and for those that have the time Velux does (did) provide DWG's (albeit sometimes sloppily drawn)which I have used as a basis for modeling one of their skylights myself. It ended up looking pretty good but that was several years ago when I was young and foolish and the client was actually concerned about what the skylight would look like installed as viewed from their second story window. Would be tempted now to try Vincent's proposition. EDIT: As I see now using the skylights provided as per Taoist they do insert and can splay along the fall line (parallel to rafters) which isn't too shabby but the one I tried, although it inserted, it still didn't quite sit down in the roof surface leaving a gap that will have to be dealt with. Edited November 17, 2012 by bc Quote Link to comment
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