Taproot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Here's a link to a plugin that is being developed for sketchup that gives extensive control of framing members. It would be great to see the framing tools in VW correct the numerous legacy bugs and take a leap forward. 4 Quote Link to comment
0 Diego - Resuelvector Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Yes, please, the Wall framing tool is ancient and, for example, lacks the ability to change the profile of the studs, like using metal "C" studs instead of the wood studs. 2 Quote Link to comment
0 Amorphous - Julian Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Agreed! And @Diego-Resuelvectorworks point is spot on. Metal studs sorely needed. Also : (1) in terms of appearance in plan, would be good to also have an option to show a cross in the middle of a stud, instead of just a rectangular outline (2) would be good have an option to automatically insert insulation between studs Edited July 17, 2019 by Amorphous - Julian 2 Quote Link to comment
0 Matt Overton Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Was hoping the Framing tool would be made legacy in favour of improving Walls, Roofs and Slabs to include "Framed" components. 3 Quote Link to comment
0 Amorphous - Julian Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 @Matt Overton that is a great point! Currently framing doesn’t update with walls and roofs as the design changes. An updated wall, roof and slab tool would make this possible. Would the Vectorworks employers who actively monitor this forum like to start a Wishlist Topic thread on the issue of how to improve wall, roof and slab tools so we can provide some end-user feedback on the topic? 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Diego - Resuelvector Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 After long talks with people inside Vectorworks, the wall tool is very complicated to update because is part of the foundation of Vectorworks, and has a ton of legacy code that nobody what to mess with... Maybe the solution is a new wall tool, build from the ground up like the Curtain Wall tool, to start replacing the legacy Wall tool. 2 Quote Link to comment
0 Amorphous - Julian Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Correct! The way walls interact with framing and finishes is best overhauled with a new tool. We posted a topic on walls construction before, which is about the way walls are construction and how finishes are put over it- Our thought too was that it should be completely re-thought. There are is so much useful user input and feedback on this forum for Vectorworks to improve its tools. Hence I reiterate the point that a dedicated moderator is imperative to collate these suggestions, offer return feedback and questions. if VW employers don’t respond on this forum. We don’t know that you’re reading and understand our comments. Edited July 17, 2019 by Amorphous - Julian 3 Quote Link to comment
0 Matt Overton Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Diego-Resuelvectorworks said: After long talks with people inside Vectorworks, the wall tool is very complicated to update because is part of the foundation of Vectorworks, and has a ton of legacy code that nobody what to mess with... Maybe the solution is a new wall tool, build from the ground up like the Curtain Wall tool, to start replacing the legacy Wall tool. Yes has been talked about a few times. Problem is Curtain wall also needs an overhaul not to be dog slow. Hopefully, someones been working in the background. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Administrator JuanP Posted July 30, 2019 Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2019 Thank you for feedback, I just submitted this wish under the following: VE-999656 Even though this is an internal # and might not mean much to you all, It will help me/us to keep you all informed of any progress. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Ryan Russell Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 7/30/2019 at 4:30 PM, JuanP said: Thank you for feedback, I just submitted this wish under the following: VE-999656 Even though this is an internal # and might not mean much to you all, It will help me/us to keep you all informed of any progress. JuanP, can you update on any changes since 2019? 2 Quote Link to comment
0 DBrown Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 To my knowledge, nothing has improved since then, and any improvements seem unlikely, I ponder sometimes if the focus of Vectorworks is architecture... 3 Quote Link to comment
0 Matt Overton Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/12/2024 at 11:46 PM, DBrown said: To my knowledge, nothing has improved since then, and any improvements seem unlikely, I ponder sometimes if the focus of Vectorworks is architecture... https://www.vectorworks.net/en-AU/public-roadmap?url=wall-modernization-83 Wall modernization has been on the roadmap in active research for a while now. Hey but at least Slabs/Roof modernisation got move to in development recently. Quote Link to comment
0 taoist Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Sketchup is not the only other software that will do roof trusses of various types. Vectorworks is way behind the curve with their framing tools. We should not have to "design" what we need. We amongst others are Builders, not just Designers. Love Vectorworks, but serious lacking in these areas. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted April 22 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted April 22 On 4/16/2024 at 9:45 PM, Matt Overton said: Wall modernization has been on the roadmap in active research for a while now. Hey but at least Slabs/Roof modernisation got move to in development recently. The wall has had significant reengineering starting with Vectorworks 2021. Wall closures are the biggest user facing feature that came out of it with additional improvements in later versions. The new Wall tool (with both arc and straight path modes) is another. The improved wall, slab, and roof component texturing is another and slabs and roofs also had some reengineering done to them in order to support those improvements. A lot of the reengineering is behind the scenes but lays groundwork to make adding other planned future features possible. 3 Quote Link to comment
0 DBrown Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Matt Panzer said: The wall has had significant reengineering starting with Vectorworks 2021. Wall closures are the biggest user facing feature that came out of it with additional improvements in later versions. The new Wall tool (with both arc and straight path modes) is another. The improved wall, slab, and roof component texturing is another and slabs and roofs also had some reengineering done to them in order to support those improvements. A lot of the reengineering is behind the scenes but lays groundwork to make adding other planned future features possible. I think the wall closures are a nice addition, but is all on the wrong front, I can't remember any single user asking for wall closures, however, there have been plenty of users asking, begging, and demanding stacked walls for, like forever, ... so maybe you are doing great work in places were few people are going to use? Quote Link to comment
0 Tom W. Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, DBrown said: I think the wall closures are a nice addition, but is all on the wrong front, I can't remember any single user asking for wall closures, however, there have been plenty of users asking, begging, and demanding stacked walls for, like forever, ... so maybe you are doing great work in places were few people are going to use? Just to offer an alternative view I think Wall Closures are a huge deal + am very pleased they were developed. For me, stacked walls are lower down the list of priorities. 2 Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted April 22 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, DBrown said: I think the wall closures are a nice addition, but is all on the wrong front, I can't remember any single user asking for wall closures, however, there have been plenty of users asking, begging, and demanding stacked walls for, like forever, ... so maybe you are doing great work in places were few people are going to use? Actually, a very large number of users have been asking for what wall closures provide. Without them, holes in wall show the component structure that would be otherwise hidden by finish components. At it's most basic level, wall closures does this but it does it in a much more true BIM way by actually modeling what the components should be doing (along with some other features like profiles). Stacked components, tilted walls, etc. are all very important to us (and on our radar) but there are other things we need to implement before we can get those features show properly in plan drawings. 4 Quote Link to comment
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Here's a link to a plugin that is being developed for sketchup that gives extensive control of framing members.
It would be great to see the framing tools in VW correct the numerous legacy bugs and take a leap forward.
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