Hidden Line rendering not working

[MHBrown]

I'm on a MBP 16", VW2022 SP1, OS Monterey, 32GB RAM. Among the many problems with VW2022, the one bothering me the most right now is an apparently broken hidden line renderer. Note the image of the Hidden Line render done in the design layer. It correctly only renders what is visible--although it is fleeting. As soon as the mouse is moved it goes to mostly wireframe. Sometimes. Not always. In a Viewport, however, as shown in the second image, only a few of the lines are hidden. It also does not render symbols, but instead shows them in Top/Plan view, even when Top is selected as the view in the viewport. In general, this is a very sluggish update, but this viewport rendering problem is a real deal killer. Any ideas?

Thanks,

MH Brown

[bcd]

I don't know but what are the other mbp-VW  issues? This doesn't sound good at all

Edited February 12, 2022 by bcd

[Pat Stanford]

1. Are you in Top view instead of Top/Plan?  Top/Plan is always wireframe.

2. Do you possibly have Unified View turned off? That could cause only the active layer to render.

3. Is the large round object set to have a solid fill?

[MHBrown]

I am in Top view, so it should render all the symbols. I'll check the Unified View. I've never had that problem before, but if that is it Thanks!

The big round object does not have a solid fill. It's like a big ring.

 

Thank you,

Mike

[MHBrown]

No, Unified View is apparently a legacy tool that is no longer considered a part of VW unless you add it. It looks like it is a bug with this version. I'm using a pristine NEW document in 2022. I ended up having to create a Copy to Lines 2D drawing--ala MiniCAD ca. 1998-- and use that (after lots of line removal. Even my line lights had rendered although that is turned off.) I might just export to 2018 and work on my 2015 MBP. Thanks for the tip. Anyone else seeing this?

Thanks,

Mike

[MHBrown]

So, no one else is seeing this problem?

[line-weight]

Can you attach a copy of a file where you are seeing it happen, and then we can have a look?

[MHBrown]

I managed to fix it by checking the "solid" fill box. Now, I should say, that ALL the shapes were already solid. The model was rendering just fine in other modes. I remember this problem with other versions of VW, so I tried it. It's sort of like kicking the shapes in the head and saying "hey, you're filled!" That, of course, does not fix the problem. I could send you the file, but now that it is working properly I don't think it would help. I should also add that the objects were not exotic shapes. One was a sweep, but the others were just extruded polygons. There were some closed polylines that didn't work and I converted them to polygons. Everything worked after the "Fill" booster shot. Thanks for the offer. I can still post the file if you'd like to see it.

Mike

[Kennedyme]

I'm having the same problem, except rechecking the "solid" fill box did not change anything.

 

Mark

[KCook]

I've been having issues with hidden line rendering (and dashed hidden line) but only with objects that have been created using the mirror tool. The original extrude fills exactly the way it is supposed to, as does a copied extrude, but the mirrored object renders incorrecty. 

Anyone find a solution to this? (Solid fill is being used, all points are appropriately connected, etc. When I first noticed the problem, I started playing with simple polygons and extrudes in a new file to figure out what was going on. It happens the same way every time).

 

Thanks!

[Justinwest1231]

Having hidden line render issues in viewports as well. VWX '22 and the only thing that works is to remove everything from a symbol or auto-hybrid for the viewport. A big pain as it defeats the symbolized workflow of auto-updating element instances. Would love to find a real solution to this. 

[jmhanby]

On 3/16/2022 at 11:15 AM, MHBrown said:

I managed to fix it by checking the "solid" fill box. Now, I should say, that ALL the shapes were already solid. The model was rendering just fine in other modes. I remember this problem with other versions of VW, so I tried it. It's sort of like kicking the shapes in the head and saying "hey, you're filled!" That, of course, does not fix the problem. I could send you the file, but now that it is working properly I don't think it would help. I should also add that the objects were not exotic shapes. One was a sweep, but the others were just extruded polygons. There were some closed polylines that didn't work and I converted them to polygons. Everything worked after the "Fill" booster shot. Thanks for the offer. I can still post the file if you'd like to see it.

Mike

I am having the same problem in all views.  Changing items to solid fill corrects the problem.  I don't recall doing this in version 2021.

Edited July 18, 2022 by jmhanby

[MHBrown]

I sometimes have to click the "solid" window twice to get it to work properly--on every filled object! Talk about a time-waster. I just upgraded to SP4 and none of the bugs I'm aware of have been fixed:

- This hidden line not rendering problem.

- I can't switch between open files by clicking on the window tabs.

- Imported PDFs, regardless of size, still result in the spinning pinwheel when moving or even dimensioning.

- Images and dimension strings flicker and disappear and reappear and flicker... when inside Edit Attributes. It is almost unusable.

- Texture thumbnail images in the Resource Window are still missing, replaced by some sort of default white-to-black gradient. Awful.

I don't think anything was done in SP4. It was pretty pointless to upgrade; ten minutes I'll never get back.

 

MHBrown

[jmhanby]

So I have been making all element solid so that they show right in hidden line mode.  Everything is working except for the railings.   The railings on the stairs are going to hidden line but the stand alone railings are not. How can I get the railings to show as hidden line mode instead of wireframe  while in hidden mode view?  Vectorworks 2022

[kklik]

On 5/30/2022 at 4:58 PM, KCook said:

I've been having issues with hidden line rendering (and dashed hidden line) but only with objects that have been created using the mirror tool. The original extrude fills exactly the way it is supposed to, as does a copied extrude, but the mirrored object renders incorrecty. 

Anyone find a solution to this? (Solid fill is being used, all points are appropriately connected, etc. When I first noticed the problem, I started playing with simple polygons and extrudes in a new file to figure out what was going on. It happens the same way every time).

 

Thanks!

I'm seeing exactly the same issue in VW 2024 update 5 - mirrored object fills don't render in Hidden Line mode in viewports - It shows correctly in the preview after clicking update, but the final render is incorrect. Dashed hidden line and Shaded modes work fine. Any idea where the issue is? I can't recall seeing this issue in 2023.