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I am drawing houses using a 2 cavity wall type for the external walls (90mm framing and 140mm brick cavity. I am adding corner windows where two windows meet at the ext corner. Producing the window is not a problem but the external wall cavity still forms at the very corner creating something similar to a post when the model is rendered. What is the remedy for this ?

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Thanks for the suggestion Chris but I am already using this tool. I am using a -110 offset from outside wall so at the very corner I am getting a 110x110mm column of brick where both window lines are set back from the corner ??

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when you use sindoor to make a corner window, stop your wall short of the corner and use draw windoor objects to draw the corner windows. Then turn on the wall above and below. That way you can have the corner window and have mitred corner joints.

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It's not clear what you want to achieve - do you want a 90x90 timber corner post with window jambs beside, and the brick veneer wrapping round below with a mitred brick corner, or do want no post at all (cantilevered lintels) with either a meeting corner window jamb or a glued glass corner

Any of these is possible with the latest WinDoor - use the window tool for the former as Jonathon suggests (you might have to add low walls for the brick corner and a column for the post), use the bay window tool for the latter.

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David W

Auckland, NZ

VWA 11.5.1

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The QT movie "WD11CornerBayWindows.mov" which comes with Architect Australia + NZ will show you how to do a corner window. It is located in the Architect Australia + NZ folder inside the VectorWorks 11 Help folder.

Alternatively therer are movies on WinDoor 11 which can be downloaded from the OzCAD website www.ozcad.com.au

Follow the links Products/Add-ons/WinDoor

[ 08-07-2005, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: mike m oz ]

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Mike

Does the movie address the corner window I outlined, ie 90x90 timber post with veneer wrapping around? I couldn't find any mention of that particular situation.

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David W

Auckland, NZ

VWA 11.5.1

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David

Not directly, but if you select the option of having jambs at the corners it will give you a simulation of a corner post the same size as the window jamb depth. It would then be relatively easy to add the veneer around by creating simple extrusions in the required locations.

[ 08-08-2005, 05:27 AM: Message edited by: mike m oz ]

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Well... I sure wish the other 98% of Users on Planet Earth had these problems, too ! We just get to fiddle with the basic Window & Wall Tools.

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islandmon - for all you non Austrralians or New Zealanders Windoor 11 can be purchased from Ozcad for approximately US$180. Well worth it for what it does. www.ozcad.com.au

There is a demo version you can download and try + QT movies and the User Guide on the Ozcad site.

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mmoz, please be so kind as to post a link to the Windoor Plug-in. For some reason or other I was not able to locate the download on your excellent site. thx

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islandmon - the site is Julian Carr's. Go to the website at www.ozcad.com.au

Click on the tab for Products and then on Add-ons and then on WinDoor. Down the bottom of this page you will find links to download the QT movies, the WinDoor manuals and the demo versions for both Mac and Windows.

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Mike, I think corner windows are much more common (as a design choice) in AU and NZ than in the US. I'm not saying we don't get requests from time to time, but it's not, "What architect doesn't use.."?

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Corner windows are common in the UK as well. I have purchased Julians Windoor, it is well worth buying, but I agree with Mike and I think it should be included in the Architect package.

You know, the rest of the world is a lot bigger than the usa even if it doesnt appear that way to some.

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Windoor produces very good corner and bay windows with its options for walls above and below. It can also do "L' shaped door/window units which VW cannot. Plus you can have doors and windows in the same unit, and many different types of doors and windows as well.

The only drawback to WinDoor corner and bay windows is that they are separate units butted up to the adjoining walls. They cannot be made to profile to the roof using the Fit to Roof command, and in hidden line views the vertical junction with the adjoining walls shows.

PS - just about every architectural magazine I look at has examples of corner windows. Even Architectural Record.

[ 03-16-2006, 07:31 AM: Message edited by: mike m oz ]

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I agree with Mike and Sean and I'm a Yank. It's not just about being focused on any perceived majority of users. It's about NNA offering only 80% from their plug-ins.

Why not buy a lease from Oz-cad and recover the cost in Architect or the Design series. Or how much more would VW Architect cost if NNA took the iniative in house and offered full functionality here?

[ 03-16-2006, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: bc ]

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Agreed, I was fully expecting this as part of v12 and was disappointed to find it missing.

I've worked on a number of UK and NZ projects now that have needed corner windows, including small houses to 10 storey buildings.

But I don't think NNA should licence WinDoor, they should take the lead and build on it.

I have a lot of trouble convincing others in our office that we should use Plug-in Objects and my biggest obstacle is the often severe limits of PIOs (getting less severe with every new version).

If you can't make the vast majority of windows using the Plug-in Object then it simply becomes an extra tool/method you have to learn, as far as many people are concerned.

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Absolutely, the comment on NNA offering 80% is dead on. I realize that Vectorworks costs much less than other BIM type cad packages but it would be nice to be able to choose Vectorworks for it's superior functionality as well as its price. Right now it seems like vectorworks is focused more on the design/build or contractor market. It's easy to make a tract home with it but when you actually start designing, the holes begin to appear. They claim that it's software designed by Architects, perhaps it is a case of needing to find some Architects who can consult on what a 3d building modeling package really needs to do to be able to be used by the 20% who are really pushing the design side and not the production housing side. If Vectorworks could achive that, they would be ahead of even their much more expensive rivals.

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Corner windows are common here in Canada also. I would love to see this capability built into the program.

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