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RickR

Top and Plan simultaniously

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I've been wrestling with some poorly drawn symbols. I've developed a trick to see both the 2D and 3D portions simultaneously, for alignment purposes.

 

It got me thinking that a temporary hybrid/hybrid view could be useful in other cases. Spotlight fixtures, truss, positions would benefit, and maybe even simple door/window/wall situations.

 

So I propose a "Top AND Plan" view mode. All hybrid objects would show all of their components at once.

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YES! I've often wished I could see both components of hybrid symbols at once.

 

What is your workaround?

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Yeah, Hybrid 2D/3D symbols are very frustrating to match up & align... unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious...  O.o

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12 hours ago, Andy Broomell said:

YES! I've often wished I could see both components of hybrid symbols at once.

 

What is your workaround?

I often end up having to break the symbol apart, align everything and then recreate the symbol, it's a time sink at best and dangerous at worst if you have symbols with records attached. This wish has my vote.

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This is partly the reason behind my wish to have symbols display their origin clearly in all symbol edit modes so there's a reference. I would also prefer if the views didn't move when switching between the edit modes - 2d, 3d and wall hole component.

 

Kevin

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1 hour ago, Kevin McAllister said:

I would also prefer if the views didn't move when switching between the edit modes - 2d, 3d and wall hole component.

 

That is a great idea in general !

 

I would like to have an option that the View doesn't change ever, until I actively change the View.

 

It may be sometimes nice, when Editing a bunch of Extrudes after each other starting from an Isometric,

that it jumps into Top Plan View automatically - and back when you leave.

But that doesn't work for me in general.

As I have mostly more than one 2D Object in my Extrudes and have my whole geometry not centered over

the VW origin but its lower left corner of the Bounding box only (=start of building grid)

 

My wish to keep the VIEW untouched is meant for everything :

When doing Undos, when entering or leaving Edit Modes, when changing active Layers, ....

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3 hours ago, Mike T said:

Yeah, Hybrid 2D/3D symbols are very frustrating to match up & align... unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious...  O.o

 

My trick is to edit the 2D and Cut everything, go to the 3D parts, and Paste in Place. Make sure that all the 2D stuff is set to screen plane. That way, when closing the 3D edit it gets pushed back into 2D.

 

We will still have to deal with filled objects obscuring stuff underneath. Top/Plan 'front/back' rules should let us control what we see.

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13 hours ago, RickR said:

 

My trick is to edit the 2D and Cut everything, go to the 3D parts, and Paste in Place. Make sure that all the 2D stuff is set to screen plane. That way, when closing the 3D edit it gets pushed back into 2D.

 

Yeah, my fix was to have a copy of all the 2D objects onto the design layer then go into the symbol and align the 2D and 3D data, one at a time to the objects on the design layer... seems clunky though?... would be much easier to just see both hybrid objects at the same time!

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May be a 2D/3D Switch in Edit Mode that will show the other part grayed out if needed,

like surounding geometry.

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The cleanest solution might be to make an improvement to the "Show Other Objects While In Edit Modes" option. I know there's already a wish on the books to allow finer control for this (eg. levels of control when working in nested items).

 

Kevin

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While all this is great for symbols, I can't help thinking it would be useful in other situations as well. Something more like X-ray mode, or the view behind functions to toggle "View Plan & 3D"

 

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