rowbear97 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I have used Keynotes and Legends on several projects. My current dilemma is I have a drawing file with keynotes shown in the annotation viewport but no Keynote Legend. I have tried to take a legend from another file in the same project and create a new file and keynote legend yet I can not recreate or restore the Keynote Legend. Has anyone else come across this issue and do you have a fix? Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Keynotes that have been copied between files don't bring the Keynote Legend along with it. What I do to bring back missing Keynote Legend objects, is this: 1) go into the VP where the Keynote callouts reside and select one; 2) over on the OIP uncheck the option to 'Place as Keynote'. The note text should appear as a Callout Object inside the VP annotations. 3) Select the Callout and check 'Place as Keynote' and the Keynote Legend should be placed somewhere on the SL or DL. 4) Make sure the Keynotes are referencing the Default Legend. 5) Repeat as needed for the rest of the Keynote objects. HTH. Edited April 11, 2017 by rDesign 1 Quote Link to comment
rowbear97 Posted May 29, 2017 Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 On 4/11/2017 at 11:31 AM, rDesign said: Keynotes that have been copied between files don't bring the Keynote Legend along with it. What I do to bring back missing Keynote Legend objects, is this: 1) go into the VP where the Keynote callouts reside and select one; 2) over on the OIP uncheck the option to 'Place as Keynote'. The note text should appear as a Callout Object inside the VP annotations. 3) Select the Callout and check 'Place as Keynote' and the Keynote Legend should be placed somewhere on the SL or DL. 4) Make sure the Keynotes are referencing the Default Legend. 5) Repeat as needed for the rest of the Keynote objects. HTH. Thanks for the suggestion. I will give this a shot! Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The other thing to look out for is that the callout is being connected to the correct call out legend. You can choose any of other legends in the file, so make sure it's going to the correct one. I give my legends a name to make it easier ( Elevation Legend, Demolition Plan Legend, etc). 3 Quote Link to comment
SIDUG Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Hi Jonathan: I have been working with VW since 1996 and have always tried to be faithful to it. But lately it has been so frustrated to find solutions to it's problems it's come to a point which I'm very doubtful. I don't work 24/7. But I have found myself working 12/7 because of discrepancies like this. Sorry about the ranting. I just spent 3 hours looking for a way to create a new Keynote Legend. Why is it so hard? Could you show me the way please? Just so I receive your help could you email me at sidug@shaw.ca please? 1 Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 The easiest way for me to create a new keynote legend is to duplicate one, rename it, and move it to the required sheet layer. Just becareful when you place the new keynotes that you have selected the correct legend in the preferences. 3 Quote Link to comment
SIDUG Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Success! Thank you Jonathan. Take care! Quote Link to comment
hollister design Studio Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Where are Keynote Legends in the Resource Manager? Jonathan @Jonathan Pickup above says that the best way to make a new legend is to duplicate and existing one and rename, but I'm not sure where to look to even do this. I have a 'phantom' keynote called "note[]" that I would like to either rename and reuse or just delete but I've no idea how to access it. Searching in the resource manager search box doesn't find it... thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 They don't live in the resource manager. Place a dummy callout object. In the OIP check Place As Keynote. A Keynote Legend will magically appear nearby. Duplicate THAT legend. In the OIP for that legend there is a name field. Name it what ever you want. Now you will notice on callout objects that have Place as Keynote checked, there will be choices in the Keynote Legend pulldown for what legend that callout is assigned to. hth 2 Quote Link to comment
hollister design Studio Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, michaelk said: ...A Keynote Legend will magically appear nearby.... I guess if it works, it works! Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 It is not the most intuitive workflow 🙂 But once you get a notes database set up I find it goes much faster than the crazy way I used to do it… 1 Quote Link to comment
hollister design Studio Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I keep creating callout but VW doesn't seem to be making the Legends... I thought maybe they where being created on an invisible layer but hitting 'V' doesn't make them visible. How do I find the legend if it's not being created right next to the callout note? Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 It's probably on a different layer. If you select the callout and have Place as Keynote checked, look at the Keynote Legend pulldown in the OIP. That callout is probably assigned to a legend on another layer. 1 Quote Link to comment
hollister design Studio Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 @michaelk I found them... 6 legends stacked on top of each other - on a design layer instead of the Sheet Layer I was working on (and NOT the design layer I had made a viewport from either...). And way out side of the working area - I went to each and every sheet layer and then design layer and used 'fit to objects'... of course they were on the last one I checked! Crazy. Made me wish VW had a Maya like 'Outliner' menu - where everything (from cameras, to nodes, to objects, to scripts) is listed and can be selected and made active. Would be as if the Resource Manager listed every instance of every thing uniquely and had a "select" button in the right click menu. Makes finding things very easy - one click in the outliner and there you are. I might add this to the wishlist! Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Yikes. 🙂 Glad you found it. I use a worksheet for exactly this. The criteria is Type = whatever class or objects I'm interested in. The database headers are =L, =C, =T, =PON, =S, and =ANGLE. That usually tells me when things are in the wrong class, hiding in weird layers, inserted just slight off angle, etc. 4 Quote Link to comment
Charlie Serf Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Hi guys, Thank you all for your recent replies. I created this post way back in 2017 and I don't know why it suddenly resurfaced. Mystery! Anyway thanks! Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Charlie Serf said: I don't know why it suddenly resurfaced. Mystery! 🙂 I think the topic has been on the surface since 2017! Quote Link to comment
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