SonnyLuong Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Please!!! Can anyone show me "the best way" how to detail a Wall Section with material hatching, notes, and dimensions? Also, Can we do the whole Building Section with all those elements show? Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 SonnyL, Here's the way I do it. First I model the building as accurately as possible. Then I use the Create Section Viewport command, placing the section on a Sheet Layer. Then I enter the annotation space and add whatever needs to be added. If you use properly set up Wall Styles and Slabs some (but not all) of the hatching and dressing up will already be done for you. But I have actually grown to prefer the process of drawing the section, using the VP for a "base" if you will. It is where I can prove (or not) whether things really work as expected. There are many helpful tools in the Detail Tool Set which make the actual annotating go faster. I will attach an example of a Section VP before and after Annotation. Others will no doubt express their desire for the software to do all of this annotation for us, and I think in a perfect world it probably would, and maybe someday it will. But for now, in my opinion, if you want it to look "just so" then you gotta do the work it takes to get there. FWIW, when I'm "in a zone" I can get a section like this detailed out in about an hour. Of course the notes take longer... Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 yep, thats how it's done. nice job peter. sonny as you get better at modeling then you can do more that will minimize the 2d work Quote Link to comment
SonnyLuong Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 It's a perfect day to give Thanks to all my new friends @ VWCommunity. Long time heard, first time join; however, I have made up my mind that the community space is the space for me in every work/nonwork hour. Quote Link to comment
Joe-SA Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Just in case your missing them, the linear material and repetitive unit tools are essential for filling in sections with appropriate hatch and detail that doesn't come in with the model...such as roof sheathing, shingles, etc. For full building sections I usually just fill the cuts of the section viewports entirely without showing material down to the 1/2" gyp or 1/2" sheathing. Larger details show this information. This brings me to a major wish list item. We need a new viewport type called Detail Viewport or a special kind of multi-zoned crop feature so we can take a single large scale wall section and introduce multiple cuts to shrink the height or width of the section down to fit on a single printable page. Currently, to maintain viewports as an underlay for these sections you have to start with a viewport cropped to just the wall you are detailing and then copy that entire viewport to create two smaller cropped viewports you can bring together on either side of a cut line. Sometimes you might have 3 or 4 of these individually cropped viewports just to make a single vertical wall section with a couple of horizontal cuts. The question then is...where do you annotate? I've created an additional overlay viewport for all 2d overdrafting and annotations. Sometimes I've kept the base viewports while other times they get turned off and I just keep the overlay viewport if the details have been completely re-drafted. Cumbersome and confusing especially when you put 3 or 4 walls sections on a single sheet. Mind you this is all sheet layers - SLVP. I think I tried this with DLVP's and then drafting over them but I think I hit a snag but I'm not remembering what it was off hand. Worth taking another look at that process. Still wouldn't replace the need for a new multi-zone crop tool. Maybe used with both DLVP and SLVPs. I believe Revit has a tool that does this exact task. I haven't used it but I'm told you just define the horizontal and vertical zones of the detail and customize what gets shown and what doesn't. It then takes out all the negative space for display. We need this. Joe Quote Link to comment
taoist Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 A great idea. AS you say sometimes we need to show multiple details of a single wall from different areas or parts of the wall. Guess they expect it to be a separate detail. Would help as you would not have to reference the details to a single or wall type it would be inclusive on a wall to wall basis. taoist Quote Link to comment
Marshall Wright Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Peter, If you don't mind me asking, what's that font you used on your building sections? Marshall Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hi Marshall, I don't mind at all. It's called Heavy Hand and it one of the fonts in the Architect's Font Pack: http://www.objectsonline.com/product_info.php?products_id=4990 Quote Link to comment
Marshall Wright Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks Peter. BTW, in reviewing my original post, I noted I'd forgotten to say how great your sections looked. Thanks again, Marshall Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks Marshall, I am mostly self-taught but have had the pleasure over the years of working with (and for) a few architects who are very particular about their graphics. I was also an active builder for close to 20 years, so I am also very particular about how the methodology is expressed (i.e.: can you really build it like that?). Quote Link to comment
SonnyLuong Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 My computer Wiz. friend, can you show me exactly how to direct the URL to have my pic up in the profile? I like for all my new friends to know how nice I look, too. I am sure our other friends can also use the instruction. Sonny Quote Link to comment
SonnyLuong Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 If you don't want to purchase that type of font yet, another type of stock font came with VW is Tekton. It is similar to the one Peter is using... I like it alot. Sonny Quote Link to comment
Marshall Wright Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Sonny, Thanks. Do you happen to know whether teckton may be a font only provided in Architect? I have 2011 Landmark and don't see it. I do have 2012 but haven't loaded it yet. I wonder whether it is in 2012 Landmark? Marshall Quote Link to comment
bc Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The font came with VW? I thought VW utilized the fonts installed in the computer. Where does one find this font that "came with VW"? Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I don't think any fonts are included in VW's. I think they are installed in one's system... Quote Link to comment
D Wood Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Tekton Pro is an Adobe font, which you have to buy separately. Quote Link to comment
Marshall Wright Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Greetings, Continuing the font discussion. When I select "font" in VW, I get the entire list of Windows fonts to choose from. An entire page of them. These appear to also include all the non-English fonts that I've turned off in Windows; yet they continue to show up with lots of others that I will never use. Is there some way to limit this page in VW to include a smaller subset to make it faster to zero in on what I need? Marshall Quote Link to comment
J Lucas Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) You need to remove the font files that you do not use from the Windows font folder. Save them to another folder in case you need them later. Edited December 1, 2011 by J Lucas Quote Link to comment
SonnyLuong Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Congradulation my friend, look like my question and your answer is making a big hit. You have influenced a whole class of Vectorworks followers all over the world! Keep up the good work to share your wisdom with us. Greatly appreciated, Sonny Quote Link to comment
SonnyLuong Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Maybe you are right, I don't know! I just pick the font style from my version and it shows. I never did pay for any types of custom font. It might have came with the Adobe Master Collection I have installed in my machine, may be? I don't know, sorry! Quote Link to comment
SonnyLuong Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 I am not sure since I have the Design w/ Renderworks 2012 version, and when i choose the font in text option, it gives me just that. Sonny Quote Link to comment
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