Vectorworks AI visualizer?

[BartHays]

OK, first questions, 

Does Vectorworks guarantee that all works created by the (Stable Diffusion) AI visualizer are copyright protected and can be used for professional work without risk?

 

Bart
 

Source:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocaaZB2lnsE

 

[rDesign]

From the AI Visualizer FAQ, emphasis added:

 

Quote

 

Anything else I need to know?

This is an image generator only; it cannot generate modelled objects, make changes to a Vectorworks model, or change render settings.

Unlike other images and drawings that you create in Vectorworks, AI-generated images cannot be copyrighted.

Vectorworks collects user data associated with text prompts and images, archives the data for seven days, and then deletes it.

 

 

[BartHays]

3 minutes ago, rDesign said:

From the AI Visualizer FAQ, emphasis added:

 

 

Excellent, thank you for the pointer.

 

FWIW, I think this is a terrible addition to VW as a professional design tool. 

While AI can be fun for inspiration, it is not usable for professional work. 

 

It's like VW gave us their password for Adobe Stock images. Sure you can download the images but you cant claim any rights to use them in any of your professional projects.

 

 

[Dave Donley]

Hello @BartHays US law doesn't allow copyrighting of images produced by AI.

 

[BartHays]

30 minutes ago, Dave Donley said:

Hello @BartHays US law doesn't allow copyrighting of images produced by AI.

 

Yes, exactly my point. 

So why integrate a tool into my professional design software that I can't claim copyright to or guarantee is copyright-free?

[rDesign]

For reference to the current unresolved legal issues involving images created using AI, here is a link to a PDF from the US Copyright Office Copyright Registration Guidance: Works Containing Material Generated By AI

[echerney]

Personally, I think this is a bad move. What I like about Vectorworks is that everything I make is rooted in reality. The objects are the same as their real-world counterparts. Using AI to boost "creativity" just doesn't make sense to me. You're going to let the computer make a fake image for you and then try to re-create it? Calling it a "creativity" scaler is just an insult to designers. I've already had clients push AI generated work into design meetings and had to tell them what they want is not possible. 

[Jeff Prince]

6 hours ago, BartHays said:

Yes, exactly my point. 

So why integrate a tool into my professional design software that I can't claim copyright to or guarantee is copyright-free?

 

Because people who can't design will buy the software and think it will make them an architect?

Designers across many industries make mood boards made of stock images, magazine clippings, screen shots, and such as part of their process don't seem to see the use of AI any different.  I doubt being caught in a lawsuit is likely nor will it stop the behavior.

 

Seems to be the industry trend.

Hype reminiscent of the .COM era with investments in dubious companies flying around everywhere.

[Helm]

   Well I asked it to make it look like an old English village.  Just tell you client to tell you what style they like and there you go.

[MGuilfoile]

This was exciting until I read this in the Vectorworks site:

 

The AI visualizer is processed on Vectorworks Cloud Services, and is available only as a benefit of Vectorworks Service Select. 

 

Is this true? I don't need, want, or have any use for Vectorworks Cloud Services, but now I see that my version of Vectorworks Architect is disabled and not the full version I was told I was buying. If VW is going to start down the road of being a la carte don't be surprised to see large numbers of disappointed users. You can't hold features hostage just to bolster your subscription base to your Cloud Services. That is very, very bad business. Why do you want to anger your customers? It is bad enough that we have to pay yearly for updates whether we deem them worthy or not (news flash: yearly updates are not necessary.)

 

I think you will be well-advised to make AI visualizer a part of the former premium-now-de facto-disabled versions of VW (Architect, Spotlight, Landscape, and Designer).

 

MHBrown

[Pat Stanford]

If you have a Service Select account with your license then you do have a Cloud Services account (if you want one or not).

 

The only time you would not have access to Cloud Services is if you have an old "perpetual" license that you are not keeping current with Service Select.

[Dave Donley]

13 minutes ago, MGuilfoile said:

This was exciting until I read this in the Vectorworks site:

 

The AI visualizer is processed on Vectorworks Cloud Services, and is available only as a benefit of Vectorworks Service Select. 

 

Is this true? I don't need, want, or have any use for Vectorworks Cloud Services, but now I see that my version of Vectorworks Architect is disabled and not the full version I was told I was buying. If VW is going to start down the road of being a la carte don't be surprised to see large numbers of disappointed users. You can't hold features hostage just to bolster your subscription base to your Cloud Services. That is very, very bad business. Why do you want to anger your customers? It is bad enough that we have to pay yearly for updates whether we deem them worthy or not (news flash: yearly updates are not necessary.)

 

I think you will be well-advised to make AI visualizer a part of the former premium-now-de facto-disabled versions of VW (Architect, Spotlight, Landscape, and Designer).

 

MHBrown

 

Hello @MGuilfoile The AI Visualizer feature requires either subscription or Vectorworks Service Select.  The processing is done on the Vectorworks Cloud Services servers which have a non-zero cost to them.  We will edit that sentence to say subscription or Vectorworks Service Select.

[MGuilfoile]

Great news! Thank you!