Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Is it possible to draw a marquee or polygon over an area of a plan view and then copy the selected area onto a design layer? Quote Link to comment
Rossford Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I do it often. Can control exactly what copies with show/snap or show/snap/modify for both layers and classes. Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 thanks, which command is that then? Quote Link to comment
HEengineering Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Its a mode within your selection tool. Upper left hand corner when the tool is selected. Many other tools have modes or attributes you can select such as the Select Similar tool. Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 I tried that but have only managed to lasoo obejcts that fall within the also and not everything within it Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 What I am trying to clip is like a screenshot selection window that will copy all the geometry within it Quote Link to comment
Rossford Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I think you have to grab all of an object to get any of it. There may be a way to get partials, forgot right now. I usually use polygon and then trim contour lines or what have you outside the property I need. Quote Link to comment
Andy Broomell Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hold Alt/Opt to select anything the selection marquee/lasso touches, rather than only the things completely encompassed by the selection. Of course this doesn't "crop" any objects down in the way a screenshot only captures a rectangular portion of your drawing. This will grab entire objects which you can then paste into your new design layer. After doing so, one approach might be using the Clip Tool in the second mode , then drawing a marquee over what you want to keep. This will delete anything outside of the box. 1 Quote Link to comment
bcd Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 No-how would that even work, what if you dragged half way across a door, would you get a half door? What you can do thought is select everything that the marquee touches - Hold Opt (Alt), Click hold & drag. cmd C to copy, cmd V to paste. Quote Link to comment
Andy Broomell Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Also I'm assuming you need the actual geometry in the new design layer so you can continue working on it? If not, you might instead just want to use a cropped viewport to display the geometry on the second Design Layer (though the geometry won't be editable). Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hmm, no nothing seems to allow clipping only a portion of the sheet, the clip tool doesn't work on walls and insulation hatch either, frustyreating as it woudl be so handty to be able to do that when detailing Quote Link to comment
bcd Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I'm not sure what you're trying to do. If you give a little more detail I think we can offer a solution. eg. Have you tried Detail Viewport? Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hi, The closest analogy I can think of is like when you take a screenshot, you drag a square over the screen (I'm taliking Mac OSX), what you get then is a nice neat clip of everything that is within the marqueee- see the attached image. That's great but it's a rasterised .PNG and can't be edited, not to scale etc. imagine now that that screenshot was Vectorworks lines (vectors), then you could edit it in VW. I think it may be possible in a 3D view but it would be so useful in 2D as you could then scale it up, add colour or other detail. to show variations of one particular detail Quote Link to comment
markdd Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 What you need to do is create a viewport. These are exact representations of the original geometry and are a very powerful concept in VWX. These can show details of the original CAD model at any scale you need. If you don't know about these yet, then the best thing to do would be to spend some time going through the help sections. Quote Link to comment
Andy Broomell Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Also with a viewport, you can overlay things in the Annotations portion of the Viewport, especially for slight variations. This might be your best bet. Or have different classes displayed in different viewports to show the variations. Depending what you're doing, Classes Overrides can be helpful if the variations mainly involve changes in attributes (line type, color, fill, etc). They let you adjust the attributes of a class in that viewport only, and any objects 'listening' to that class will take on those visual overrides. Not sure how well this plays with wall components though... And again, not sure exactly what types of variations you're going for. Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Andy Broomell said: Also with a viewport, you can overlay things in the Annotations portion of the Viewport, especially for slight variations. This might be your best bet. Or have different classes displayed in different viewports to show the variations. Depending what you're doing, Classes Overrides can be helpful if the variations mainly involve changes in attributes (line type, color, fill, etc). They let you adjust the attributes of a class in that viewport only, and any objects 'listening' to that class will take on those visual overrides. Not sure how well this plays with wall components though... And again, not sure exactly what types of variations you're going for. Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 Yes I know all about viewports, I use them many times each day they are great but they are not what I'm after as modifying the viewport changes the design layer. What I want is a duplicate of just part of the design layer that can be edited without messing up the viewport design layer geometry. It seems like a relatively simple thing to ask for but maybe it just can't be done. Quote Link to comment
markdd Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Cadplan Architecture said: as modifying the viewport changes the design layer You cannot change the design layer geometry within a viewport.... You can add to it using an Annotation layer within a viewport. You can add a crop to a viewport to show just a portion of the whole model and that will scale according to what you enter into the Viewport's object info palette. Are you sure you mean viewports?? Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 37 minutes ago, markdd said: You cannot change the design layer geometry within a viewport.... You can add to it using an Annotation layer within a viewport. You can add a crop to a viewport to show just a portion of the whole model and that will scale according to what you enter into the Viewport's object info palette. Are you sure you mean viewports?? I'm with you but the design layer does get changed in the viewport, annotations write over the design layer view but because of that it doesn't do what I want to do as it leaves the design layer visible. I want something totally detached from the existing geometry. In essence I need a duplicate detail, true I can duplicate the deatail on the design layer and thehack it about by trimming and chopping and trimming, but it's not really a good way of doing things and time consuming, As I said I'm familiar with VPs but they don't offer the solution. Quote Link to comment
Benson Shaw Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Maybe this is the goal? Crop a sheet layer viewport as desired, then apply the Convert to Lines command. -B Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 15 hours ago, Benson Shaw said: Maybe this is the goal? Crop a sheet layer viewport as desired, then apply the Convert to Lines command. -B A nice idea but it won't do it unfortunately, thanks anyway. Quote Link to comment
HEengineering Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Something is getting lost in translation, as I would agree with Benson. If you create a viewport of the desired area you can adjust the crop and then convert the viewport to line work, which is not attached to the model anymore? Quote Link to comment
Andy Broomell Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 What is the end goal - 2D or 3D? On a Sheet Layer or Design Layer? Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 19 hours ago, HEengineering said: Something is getting lost in translation, as I would agree with Benson. If you create a viewport of the desired area you can adjust the crop and then convert the viewport to line work, which is not attached to the model anymore? I tried it but Viewports don't convert to lines in VW2016 Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 18 hours ago, Andy Broomell said: What is the end goal - 2D or 3D? On a Sheet Layer or Design Layer? 2D on the design layer Quote Link to comment
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