acepernich Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Add loci to the door swmbol at the points where you want the wall to break. If you don't specify a wall break location/width with loci, the symbols bounding box is used to break the wall. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 There are certain instances when wall breaks show wider than the object you've inserted in the wall, for instance if you have a door swing winder than 90? the wall breaks will be shown at the widest extent of the opening. Is there a way around this? Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted May 5, 2006 Author Share Posted May 5, 2006 Actually this doesn't appear to work. It only works if you want to expand the wall break as opposed to reduce it. Try this: make a symbol using a plugin door with a swing more than 90?, then put it in a wall and try adding loci to reduce the wall break. Doesn't work for me. (Extra keywords: jamb window return) Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted May 21, 2007 Author Share Posted May 21, 2007 Is there any way to achieve this? See attached image for example. Quote Link to comment
vhector Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 got this problem as well. For offices I use a symbol aswell, because they are all the same. But when i is a building with round walls, the spaces are taperd. with a tapered form I aslo get thos white spaces. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Christiaan - it does work. If you have a hybrid symbol you will need to: - Add 2D loci at the desired extremities of the 2D opening. - Add 3D loci at the desired extremities of the 3D opening. Quote Link to comment
vhector Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 y it works. But only straight, but not with tapered Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Robert Anderson Posted May 21, 2007 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted May 21, 2007 vhector, tapered what? Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted May 21, 2007 Author Share Posted May 21, 2007 Thanks Mike, I assumed I'd got it right last time and it didn't work but I was wrong. Quote Link to comment
Kevin Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Thanks Mike. I have been dealing with this "problem" for years. I had no idea that there was a solution, and a simple one at that. Today has been a good day. Quote Link to comment
RGyori Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I will not argue against the notion that I can be dense at times but what are the "certain circumstances" under which the wall cut is not correct? I have made several attempts at duplicating the problem as described but without success. Nor I have not come across the problem in the course of preparing my drawings. Thanks. Mac OS10.4.9/VW 12.5.1 Bob Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 Bob, I'll hazard a guess that you've responded to the wrong thread? Quote Link to comment
P Retondo Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Christiaan, has your question been answered? I am assuming that the image you posted shows the behavior you DO NOT want. If you still have the problem, I'm guessing that the door handle in the 2d view is creating the outer boundary limit of the symbol, and that the wall is being cut to that position. I've experienced this kind of problem in the past, and I've suggested on the wish list that a specific object type (say a locus with a particular class name) be created that would force the wall cut to occur at a desired location instead at the extreme limits of the symbol object. Note that in a door PIO with trim, there is a "wall simulation" that actually fills the area between the actual cut and the jamb. That suggests a possible workaround you could play with. Create a door with trim on one side of 0 thickness. Note in the attached image that the selection handles show the actual extents of the symbol with 0-thickness trim, and that the PIO has filled in the wall up to the jambs: Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thanks Pete, yeap already covered. Thanks for the PIO tip tho. Quote Link to comment
P Retondo Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Christiaan, thanks for the update - it prompted me to try out the locus suggestion, and I withdraw my wishlist request, it seems as though the program actually already behaves as I thought I wished it did! Thanks, Antone and Mike, for incredibly helpful advice. I also note that if I convert a PIO to a symbol, it no longer carries with it the wall infill that it used to, so my understanding of the way things work seems to be a bit outdated. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 It is possible that there was a bug when I (and you) tried it last time, which has been fixed at some point, maybe. Quote Link to comment
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