Tim Olson Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just read an interesting article about Apple ditching Intel in lieu of their own ARM chip, possibly as soon as 2020. Would that force Mac users to migrate to Windows, or would VW rewrite for ARM? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted April 3, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted April 3, 2018 I was honestly hoping it was an April Fool's joke. I know they like to make their own stuff but... if this kind of change actually requires developers to rebuild applications, that would be pretty crazy. I'll poke the engineers about it. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted April 3, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted April 3, 2018 If anyone recalls the PowerPC to Intel transition, it went... not great. Quote Link to comment
Diego - Resuelvector Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Well, at the beginning was a nigthmare, but worked really well in the long run... Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted April 3, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted April 3, 2018 Oh the end was great, I just mean the transition. When they announced the PPC > Intel switch I was manning phones for a company that handled AppleCare contracts. It was messy. However, if the entire codebase needs rewriting... no better time to clean things up. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Everything that currently runs on Mac is compiled through Apple's Xcode compiler. I feel certain that Apple would ensure that most code would require no more than a recompile to run on the new processors. Of course, VW is not most code. The graphical display and especially the rendering engine are far closer to the metal than most general purpose game/productivity application. This means that there might be some incompatibilities versus a more basic program. But if Apple is truly making the move, then it is up to Apple to provide the tools to make the transition easy for developers. Yours Truly, The Eternal Optimist Quote Link to comment
Jim Smith Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Yeah, my brother in law (now retired) had an Apple VAR business at the time. While it was good for his business, his firm worked untold crazy hours on the Power PC to Intel era. He used to joke that as Apple had a Pepsi guy as president they wanted to copy Coke. What better way copy Coke that with an Apple's version of New Coke. Quote Link to comment
Matt Overton Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Source of Rumor is Bloomberg who's news ticker is basically a subliminal messaging system to most the traders in the world. Want to move stock prices getting them to publish is a great start. That said I'm sure Apple would love to ditch Intel Platform hubs and graphics for in-house solutions. Luckily Intel have answer to that with their tech to stitch multiple dies into one "chip" package. Which Intel are already using to package AMD Vaga GPU with Intel CPU. Apple could use it to tailor custom package at far less risk than a full custom job. https://www.pcworld.com/article/3185875/hardware/future-intel-cpus-could-be-cobbled-together-using-different-parts.html Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Resuelvectorworks said: Well, at the beginning was a nigthmare, but worked really well in the long run... It worked very well for me when my Mac Pro was finally delivered early 2007. 16 hours ago, Tim Olson said: Apple ditching Intel in lieu of their own ARM chip ditching !? It is foreseeable that smaller Notebooks will run on ARM in the near future. And that Apple would prefer to have full control over own GPUs. Microsoft also published their ARM tests with Windows. Apple may slowly switch to ARM beginning from their weakest machines. I am not sure if ARM will replace i86 for workstations in the foreseeable future and I doubt that Apple would really want build to these. There may be also a legacy mode to run older software (rosetta?) This would not be very interesting for more demanding Apps like 3D or CAD though. Apple will help with their compilers to prevent the need to completly rewrite all Software. And if, I think we will see some more VW versions released anyway before that happens. Edited April 4, 2018 by zoomer 1 Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 And BTW it is still a rumor. Maybe someone needed cheaper Intel shares .... 1 Quote Link to comment
DanJansenson Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Supporting P. Stanford The Eternal Optimist above:https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/04/04/stop-panicking-about-apples-rumored-switch-from-intel-to-its-own-chips-in-the-mac Quote Link to comment
P Retondo Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 ARM is a modified RISC chip. Patterson and Hennessy just won the Turing award for RISC, and IMHO it's not just Apple wanting greater control, RISC is more efficient. Quote Link to comment
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