Kting Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I found another post on here about the same issue i am currently experiencing. However their solution does not pertain to me. The issue is my menu bar is completely grayed out, I am unable to delete anything, undo, save, quit, close. nothing. The last suggested solution for this problem was that there was a door drawn with a width of 0" so the program freaks out and locks up everything up. However I am drawing a basic plan view of a street area and all I am doing is individual lines. on top of that how am I suppose to find something that is technically not actually drawn? if something is a 0" in width doesn't that mean it is either a dot or none existing. Unless that is not the issue that is causing my problem, anyone else have an ideas why this would be happening? because I would think that being able to draw something in as a non-existing object would not even be allowed by the program. I am left to force quit and unable to save any of my progress. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted November 17, 2014 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 17, 2014 Often that means a dialog box is open on another screen or behind the main drawing area. The icon at the top looks like Vectorworks 2014, is this the case? Which Mac OS X version are you using and which service pack of Vectorworks 2014 are you on? Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have seen something similar before when I managed to get a dialog box open behind a drawing window. The program is locked until you close the dialog, but you can't see the dialog. I have also had a dialog open in a different Space (Mac term). Same result. Quote Link to comment
Kting Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 I mean, I am still able to kinda draw and input text, however i am unable to delete anything and my hotkeys work on and off. That was the only reason I even noticed that there was a problem because everything I would press "2" for the line function it would enter in 2' in the quick input. after a couple of "esc" presses and "x" it would allow me to select line with a hotkey. Quote Link to comment
Kting Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yeah, I am using Vectorworks 2014 Fundamental and MAC OSX 10.9.5 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted November 17, 2014 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 17, 2014 There are no open dialogs from Vectorworks on other spaces, under palettes or behind the main drawing area at all? Quote Link to comment
Kting Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have a dual monitor setup, I look on both screen and nothing. I dont know why a Dialog box would have popped up, unless I double pressed "s". Next time it happens I will look a bit harder, usually when you press F3 to zoom out on the desktop space, dialogue boxes show up above the programs window and I did not see one. Quote Link to comment
nahekul Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I have the same problem exactly as you described. All menus are greyed out and I can draw but not delete. There's also a text box of the mouse location displayed beside the mouse that I can't get rid of. There's no dialog box opened as well. It happened when shifting windows around, but I wasn't able to reproduce the same bug after a couple of tries so it must be rare. A co-worker had the same problem before as well but said it only happened that one time and can't reproduce it. I can however, save the file with the popup when I click the close. And restarting Vectorworks seems to fix the problem. System: Mac OSX 10.10.1 Vectorworks 2015 Architect SP2 Edited December 17, 2014 by nahekul Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted December 17, 2014 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted December 17, 2014 Are you able to cause this problem intentionally, after restarting clears it? Quote Link to comment
nahekul Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 No I haven't been able to reproduce the the problem intentionally after the restart. Quote Link to comment
doug shaffer Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 After recently installing Yosemite, we are experiencing something very similar - objects can be selected and moved with the cursor, lines, shapes can be drawn with tools, but clicking on the menu bar reveals nothing but grayed out items. We can use the quick-key (command-s) to save the file, but then have to quit and re-open Vectorworks to get it to work properly. We are using VW Architect 2015, OS X - Yosemite. I'm certain there are no hidden windows open that might be causing the behavior. Thanks for any help you may offer - Doug Quote Link to comment
AlHanson Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I am also experiencing this issue. There's definitely no dialog box open anywhere. I'm running VWX 2015 SP2 (Build 240846), on Yosemite with multiple monitors. As best I can tell from my experience with this issue is that it seems to only happen to me when my Macbook has external monitors plugged in. It generally happens most frequently when I click the middle mouse button to access the Pan Tool and move the drawing around. Usually clicking the button again does not immediately release the tool and then I'll experience the greyed out menus. I can't do most things including directly saving. The only fix has been to Cmd-Q to close VWX which will at least prompt me to save and then restart. It started out as an occasional thing, but has been growing more frequent and I have to restart multiple times while drafting a project. Quote Link to comment
bjoerka Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) we experienced the same thing today on an imac. no chance to do anything. and the mysterious thing is that when you are moving the arrow there is always a blue box with coordinates running behind. vw 2015 sp2 on yosemite 10.10.2 Edited March 18, 2015 by bjoerka Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted March 18, 2015 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 18, 2015 Did it disappear after closing/reopening the document, Vectorworks on its own, or did you need to do a full restart of your machine? Quote Link to comment
bjoerka Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 it disappeared after closing vectorworks. after typing command-q the file was saved. all other shortcuts that belong to any menu item did not work. shortcuts that belong to tools could be used... Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted March 19, 2015 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 19, 2015 Send tech@vectorworks.net the following: http://kbase.vectorworks.net/questions/627/DirectX+Diagnostics+and+System+Profiler ATTN me. I'll add it to the cases we are tracking for this. PLEASE let me know if it recurs and what happened immediately before it does, we haven't been able to reproduce it yet. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted March 19, 2015 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 19, 2015 We may have found it. It appears to happen if you are in the middle of drawing an object (so for instance, after the first click of the rectangle tool in the document) then use boomerang mode or middle clicking to pan and WHILE panning, evoke Expose. If you let go of spacebar or the middle mouse button, upon returning to Vectorworks, most or all of the menus are grayed out. Its possible to save your work by clicking the red circle on the document window to close it, which forces a save, but regular saving and quitting doesn't work. There may be more scenarios that trigger it, but for now the bug has been submitted. Quote Link to comment
bjoerka Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 i can´t rebuild what you are describing, but maybe because i dont understand what you mean by "evoke Exposure" I had the greyed out menues this morning again, but can not rebuilt it. What i did was setting up a new reference by "refence layer" in the tools menue. After selecting the layer that i wanted to be referenced and leaving the dialog with "esc" all menues have been grey. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted March 23, 2015 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 23, 2015 Expose, a built in screen/window manager in Mac OS X: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201741 That isn't the only way to cause it however, I've had users get it for a number of various reasons, that one was simply the one we were able to reproduce the issue most commonly in. There were many other causes and I'm told that a fix for the one we found should also be a fix for the others. Quote Link to comment
bjoerka Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 :-) i never use that but i tried it and the menues are not going grey for me... any release date for the next service pack? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted March 23, 2015 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 23, 2015 Not yet, but I don't expect it to be very far off now. Quote Link to comment
cberg Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I am having the same problem. I have a hunch that it might be the VW confirm before autosave dialogue box that causes/initiates this problem. Let me run it a while the the confirm box unchecked and see what happens. Quote Link to comment
cberg Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Okay. Seems like this problem happens even when confirm before autosave is unchecked. Any suggestions as to what is causing it besides general bugginess? Quote Link to comment
Keito64 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I have been having similar issues, so thought I'd add my symptoms to the list. The error generally occurs while panning and invoking expose, or mission control. From this point, I am locked into panning for approximately 10 seconds (or after a certain amount of spamming 'esc' key). It has NOT occurred when using a single monitor or (in Mission Control preferences) un-ticked 'displays have separate spaces'. The only functionality after this moment is the ability to pan, and use the line tool. A number of other colleagues have this issue. Those that don't either do not use 'Spaces', 'Mission Control', or only have a single monitor. Quote Link to comment
AFDesign Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Hi, I have the same problem using "progress dialog" on a plugin I wrote. You can quickly reproduce the problem in this way: 1) create a new script and paste "example 1" from here http://developer.vectorworks.net/index.php/VS:Progress_Dialog 2) if you click cancel button it works correctly; if you push the ESC button all stops but the dialog remains opened and, even if you close its window, all is locked and grayed out. Tested with Vectorworks 2016 SP1 on OSX 10.10.5 Any workaround to solve this adding some code to the example?? Thanks Edited November 5, 2015 by AFDesign Quote Link to comment
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