Portmanteau Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hi Ive been trying to get hold of this manual Step by Step with Vectorworks Architectfrom here in the UK but there doesnt seem to be any resellers here. Would you know how to get hold of it and do any of the Vectorworks manuals come in Metric measurements? Kind Regards, Portmanteau Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 That book is a VW 12 book and is not available any more. Even most of the 2008 workbooks cannot be sourced from NNA by Computers Unlimited - they simply are out of print and no stock available. If you are after 2009 versions, give me a call in a 'couple of weeks' as CU are expecting stock in of the 2009 versions then. Quote Link to comment
Portmanteau Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 I dont mean to sound rude but why is it still on the website? I am looking for tutorial manuals for Vectorworks 12/12.5 which can be bought here in the UK and have metric measurments - any help with this? Ive found on the whole the support and training that has been available in the form of manuals very poor compared to the abundance of tutorials for AutoCAD products Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Archoncad still have their range of VW 12.5 manuals listed for sale on their website (these are in metric): http://archoncad.com/hardcopy-manuals.html Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 i can ship to the UK easily. Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 But its hugely expensive - even when the ? was strong, with a couple of quick start guides, the order came in at over ?80 - probably ?70 of that was for the book plus shipping alone - at 1.91GBP/US$ exchange rate. That's over ?90 at today's exchange rate. Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 If CU wanted to carry these books for you i would not have to ship from NZ. Please refer to my web site, the prices have been edited since Ian purchased. Quote Link to comment
ffonics Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 not sure what the logic/cost cutting thought process is behind omitting the operating manuals for 2008 / 2009 by NNA. Its really frustrating to have to refer to VW 12 manuals while using 2009. Its simply not acceptable to outsource this vital piece. Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Helping the environment for one. Cutting costs is another. Paper manuals haven't shipped with upgrades for quite a few version. The online help contains all the info in the manuals. NNA doesn't outsource the manuals, there have been 3rd party manuals for years Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 This has been discussed before, but in case you don't know, the help files contain the exact same information as the printed manuals. If you want to print it yourself, there is a PDF version located at Applications:Vectorworks 2009:VWHelp:Additional Documentation. If you prefer a true printed manual, they are available for purchase from NNA directly or any reseller. Pat Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 The PDF manual, I might add, is for the Designer version of Vw, which has noted articles for the Architect features I do have, such as cabinets, along with Designer features I don't have but I wish I did, such as handles for those cabinets. For the price, I found the archoncad Architect Tutorial very helpful. And the pdf has embedded videos for instant demonstrations by Jonathan - something more than you would get from just a book. And the demonstrations are in metric - so I would have to take every centimeter length and divide by 2.54 for inches. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 You are right about there being features in Designer that are not in Architect, but your example is not one of them. Designer is a combination of Architect, Landmark, Spotlight and Machine Design. With Designer, you get all of the features of all of them. Designer does not add additional features that are not present in each of the individual modules. So Designer offers the 3D screws/nuts/bolts that are not in Architect, but the cabinet module in Designer is exactly the same as the one in Architect. Pat Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Pat, I can see that the cabinet plug-in object is the same for both Designer and Architect, but it looks like the handles are missing in Architect (or are they?) At any rate, it is keeping me from putting handles on my cabinets. I've assumed that cabinet handles are a special feature of Designer, but if there is a way to have them in Architect, that would be great news. Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 you add handles by using the drawer handles button and door handles button at the bottom of the Object Info Palette, it's right at the very bottom Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I tried that, but it brings up the message "No symbols were found in the active document". Which means that I don't have any handle symbols. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Bob, It sounds like you have the Display default content preference switched off (Session tab). To access the handles that Preference needs to be on, and the Cabinet Pulls drawing needs to be located in the Cabinet - Handles folder inside the Defaults folder in the Library folder. Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 mike m, You absolutely nailed the problem - thanks. I had the Cabinet Pulls.vwx squirreled away somewhere else, so I made the folder where it should be, and the pulls showed up under the cabinet OIP. A bit of a distraction from the main subject, though. Maybe I should have mentioned hardscapes, which I know is not in Architect but in Designer. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Hardscape is a Landmark tool. That is the type of thing NNA uses to differentiate the products and make Designer attractive ;-) Pat Quote Link to comment
Portmanteau Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) My thread has been hijacked lol. Im still unsure if archoncad's books are worth the price especially if Im working with architect. I have money here Im just wondering if I can find answers to questions for free? So ive worked out it will cost me ?42 with manual itself; how much will shipping be? archoncad you have a potential buyer here Edited November 26, 2008 by Portmanteau Quote Link to comment
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