Pat Stanford

I have not had time to fully test this. Not at all in VW2017 as I don't have a clean installation. In 2016 I just copies the Attributes_Line Types folder from the Application folder Library to the User folder Library. This resulted in identical files with the same name (LineTypes_Default) in both locations. With this setup I got only a single instance of each line type in the Attributes palette. I then edited the file in the User library. I changed the color of one line type and deleted some others. After doing this, only the line types from the User library showed in the attributes palette. I then changed the name of the file in the user folder. Then I got duplicates of all of the line types that were in both files, but the object name included the name of the file they are in, but not where that file is located. So if you want to override and not use the objects in the Application Library, it appears you can do that by just using the exact same name in the other library(ies). If you want to ADD additional objects to the ones that are in the Application Library, you will need to make sure your file uses a different name.

My wish would be for the ability to easily change "Material Sets". I am thinking some sort of spreadsheet format that would show the "groups" that have a certain material down the side and multiple columns for the material to be applied. There should then be a way to create a new "column" based on an existing one and modify the material to be applied. Then a way to select the column (SET) to be currently used. An example of this would be to have one Set showing a stucco exterior of a given color. An alternate Set could then have wood siding or shingles or ??? There would also need to be a way to take a modified Set and effectively apply it back to the original. So if you changed one side of a house to be a different material, the original Set would then show that side as a separate row, but with the original material. This needs a lot more fleshing out, but I think the idea of Sets of materials is just as important as having materials by themselves. Especially if you want to use Materials to show different design options.

While we are on the topic of Application/Workgroup/User folders I would like to add a little more information. Any VW file containing resources stored in any of the three locations/appropriate subfolder will show up as Default Content (if you have that turned on). Normally you want to ADD custom resources to either the Workgroup or User folder. If you add them to the Application folder, especially if you just add them to an existing file, there is a possibility that a future upgrade to VW will overwrite that file and your custom resources could be lost. If you use the Workgroup or User folder, there is effectively no chance of VW overwriting the file. If you are seeing things in the Default Content that you don't want to see, you can go into the Applications library and either ZIP or remove those files so you don't have to see those items.Worst case is then that you will have to repeat that action after a reinstall.

What character are you using for the inches mark? You have to use the standard double quotes mark. If you have something that is doing a "Smart Quote" substitution or you are using two single quote marks, VW won't recognize it as a unit symbol and could cause the problem you are seeing. When you then manually change the inches part of the dimension but leave the quote mark alone you are avoiding the problem.

Marionette is really best for creating individual objects or groups of objects. Trying to use it to connect multiple different objects is likely to be difficult. I still do not really understand what you are trying to do. Give us a better description, or better yet, a file that shows the types of things you need to do and we can make better suggestions as to the best way to proceed.

Are you using the Fundamentals workspace or a custom workspace? If so, the Batch PDF command is probably not in the workspace. If you have a Design Series (Architect, Landmark, Spotlight, Designer), try switching to one of those stock workspaces and see if it shows then in the location Art suggested. If you only have Fundamentals, then I think you are out of luck as I believe that the batch commands are only available in the Design Series products. Pat

Change your class visibility settings. The Sills class controls the visibility of the door swing. Ceiling-Main class controls the visibility of wall breaks in door and windows(?) So for a floor plan you want Sills visible and Ceiling-Main invisible. For a ceiling plan you want Sill invisible and Ceiling-Main visible. Depending on how you structure your drawing and what it contains there are probably other classes you will want to change the visibility of also. HTH. Pat

Yeah, The single quote that you have in the name is going to cause you all sorts of trouble. VW uses single quotes to define string literals. Therefore it does not understand how to handle your line with three single quote marks in it. The best option would be to change the name of the Custom Title so it does not contain quote marks. The second and are worse option would be to somehow "escape" the single quote inside the string so it can be recognized. My Python is not good enough to do that from memory and I don't have time to work it out right now. Hopefully this will put you on the right track.

Zoomer and art are probably correct. If you have any objects that have known dimensions you can measure them and determine the amount the scale is off. 25.4 or 0.0394 is inches and millimeters. 12 or 0.0833 is inches and feet 39.37 or .0254 is inches and meters If you have not done anything else, and you have imported into a blank document, you can use the Scale command and check the Entire Drawing box to get the object sizes correct. But you might be better off just reimporting with the proper units.

You can also force Google to search just the new forum. just add site:forum.vectorworks.net to your search string. This will work for any specific site you want.

Have him check the workspace he is using. It sounds like he is in the Fundamentals workspace. Try the Architect or Designer workspaces have substantially more capabilities.

OK, I found the problem. Actually a couple of them. 1. Everything inside your Title Block (DDA Portrait, the only one I worked on) was in a group. Somehow this was messing up the Revision code and causing both the entered data and the placeholder :r fields to show. I edited the symbol and Ungrouped, so everything was at the top level of the symbol and it seems to work. 2. The title block contains manual text for revisions A to C. I deleted those. 3. You have the :rNote written where you probably want to have the title Note or something similar. 4. You need to put the :rNo, :rNote and :rDate fields where you want the first instance to show. 5. You will want to manually size the :r text field to the maximum width you want them to have. 6. If you really want the lines in between, you will need to play with the font size and/or line spacing of the :r filed markers. I have attached my copy of the file with numbers 1 to 5 changed. Playing to get 6 right is up to you. My suggestion is just to drop the separator lines and colons and go to vertical separator lines. Then your note can wrap to more than 1 line without messing up the spacing.

Can you post a copy of a file containing your title block so I can take a look? If you click the Reply or Quote button (not Quick) you will get more editing options to allow you to post the file.

My first guess would be that you have the :rNote in there twice. Probably once where it is linked as a field and a second time just as text. Edit the Title Block symbol and see if it is there.

I am pretty sure that the formatting for the database (both header and data rows) has to be the same. Many people go to the view menu and uncheck the Show Database Headers so they don't get the object counts etc. that show up in the database header. You can then use the spreadsheet row above to put your titles in and use the Format:Cell:Border functions to make the bottom border as you like. Or am I misunderstanding the problem?

There is also a script I posted here: https://techboard.vectorworks.net/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=108487#Post108487 That creates a worksheet showing all of the field names for a selected object. For doors and windows it needs to just on the design layer, not inserted in a wall. For VW2016, it appears what you need is: 'Window'.'UserFld1'

Did you have a row in the Database (Report) selected when you tried to "drag" the tile? Make sure you have a one or more data rows (i.e. 4.1, 4.2, 6.8, etc) selected then click and drag the Sort tile (vertical lines) to the column header (A, B, C, etc) that you want sort. One tile sorts ascending, the other defending. To change the sort just drag the other tile. To remove the sort, drag the tile from the header.

Or add a record to the symbol that you can then enter the value that you want regardless of the geometry of the symbol. This is especially appropriate if you want to be able to use the graphical symbol as a "scalable symbol" and change the size to get the graphic look you want.

Tell us more please. 1. What number are you using in the calculation? The area of the circle or a manually entered value in the record? 2. If you are using the area, are you sure that the circles are exactly 6' diameter? The 144 sounds like 5.5' diameter. 3. Have you tried removing the SUM tile so you can see if there is a problem with a single instance or if they are all the same? If not, either temporarily add a second database to the worksheet or create a second worksheet that will show the data for every instance instead of just the total.

Sorry for the delayed reply. I am not getting notifications for a lot of posts. Something like you wrote is certainly possible, but I am not positive if it will work like that. You may actually need to create a couple of extra columns. Put the .Area in one and the Count in the other and then do the division based on the cell references. The other possibility is that you can probably use a second SUM tile to actually "UNSUM" the value in the space.area column and get what you want.

Another possibility to see the fields available in a PIO is the vectorscript i wrote and published in this thread https://techboard.vectorworks.net/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=108487#Post108487 Look through the whole thread and make sure you grab the latest version. Put an instance of a PIO directly in the drawing (not in a wall, group or symbol) and run the script. It will create a worksheet showing all of the fields in the PIO record and their data types.

Again, where are these cells? If they are in a database you put the formula =C15+C31 in the database header row. If they are just general cells, just put =C15+C31 in the cell where you want to sum.

Where did you put that formula. In the database header row? If you are just trying to divide two cells you don't need the SUM. If you want to get the sum of a bunch of database rows, put the formula B16/B17 in the database header. The header row will then automatically calculate the SUM of all of the rows in that column. Ask more if you still have questions.

You might also want to check your Row Heights and see if they are set to Automatic or to a fixed value. Change them to Automatic and the Row Height should adjust to handle the wrapped cells. If you want all the rows the same, find the row with the most lines of wrapped text, adjust the height of that row so it looks good, then select all the other rows (you can include the one you set in the first place) and set them all to the same value.

What kind of object are you using? Some objects have multiple parts that can have different classes. Do you have any classes that have the red fill?