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  1. The issue process is long-winded but most of this would go on in the background of the EDMS, hopefully this will explain how the revision and suitability codes work. Things to remember: 1st, the sequence of suitability codes is just a list, documents do not have to be issued in this sequence and not all codes will be applicable to any one project, some companies chose to only use a sub-set of these codes. 2nd, ISO 19650 assumed that a Electron Document Management System (EDMS) will be used to manage the Common Data Environment (CDE) 3rd, A document to be SHARED cannot have a decimal point revision. Where a new document is initially created in the EDMS it would be assigned: The revision code of: ( P01.00 ) and a suitability code of ( S0 ) The file has never been issued at this point; thus a (decimal revision of .00) and it’s suitability is Work-In-Progress (WIP)… ( S0 ) Example: Two company’s (“A” and “B”) are working on the same project using something like drop box to share and are required to exchange information between them before delivering to the client. Company “A” Creates a new document named: Building Outline – P01.00_S0.vwx The file has never been issued at this point; thus a (decimal revision of .00) and it’s suitability is Work-In-Progress (WIP)… ( S0 ) Company (A) has their first go at defining the building outline and position of doors and windows etc. Once done they save their file as: Building Outline – P01.01_S0.vwx Company “A” now looks at their design and makes comments with other internal team members. Company “A” now updates there design with the comment. Once done they save their file as: Building Outline – P01.02_S0.vwx: (at this point they can continue to progress their design) Company (B) needs to get started on their Landscape design so need to see what Company (A) have defined as there Building Outline. Company “A” gets to a point where it is happy to pass there initial design to Company “B” To ensure Company “A” has traceability of their design the file needs to be SHARED. (For a document to be share the decimal point revision need to be dropped.) As this is the first time the document has been SHARED it will go out as revision: P01 Company “A” needs to select from the available suitability codes one that best fits the purpose for which they are sharing the file, at this stage ( S2 ) (for information) would be a good choice. They save a copy of their file as: Building Outline – P01_S2.vwx This file is then issue to Company “B” Once issued; Company “A” copies their file and updates the revision code to the next in sequence ( P02.01 ) and retune it to Work-In-Progress (WIP) … ( S0 ) The current file is now: Building Outline – P02.01_S0.vwx Revision sequence: Building Outline – P01.00_S0.vwx File created in WIP Building Outline – P01.01_S0.vwx First save point in WIP Building Outline – P01.02_S0.vwx Second save point in WIP Building Outline – P01_S2.vwx SHARED (S2 for information) Building Outline – P02.01_S0.vwx File returned to WIP Company “B” Company “B” received Company “A” file. They create there own file: Landscaping – P01.00_S0.vwx They reference Company “A” file in and add their information. Once they have created there initial design outlines they need to pass there file back to Company “A” so they can see what they are proposing. To ensure Company “A” has traceability of their design the file needs to be SHARED. For a document to be share the decimal point revision need to be dropped. As this is the first time the document has been shared it will go out as: ( P01 ) Company “A” needs to select from the available suitability codes one that best fits the purpose for which they are sharing the file, at this stage ( S2 ) (for information) would be a good choice at this stage. The file would be issued as: Landscaping – P01_S2.vwx Once issued; Company “B” copies their file and updates the revision code to the next in sequence ( P02.01 ) and retuned it to Work-In-Progress (WIP) … ( S0 ) They save the copy as: Landscaping – P02.01_S0.vwx Revision sequence: Landscaping – P01.00_S0.vwx File created in WIP Landscaping – P01.01_S0.vwx First save point in WIP Landscaping – P01_S2.vwx SHARED (S2 for information) Landscaping – P02.01_S0.vwx File returned to WIP Company “A” Company “A” receives the file form Company “B” and can reference this into their file and see what Company “B” propose, Company “A” updates the design within their file: ( Building Outline – P02.01_S0.vwx ) with some changes that affect the Landscaping so need to re-issue their updated file to Company “B”. Company “A” saves a copy of their file as: Building Outline – P02_S0.vwx And issues to Company “B” Once issued; Company “A” copies their file and updates the revision code to the next in sequence ( P03.01 ) and retunes it to Work-In-Progress (WIP) … ( S0 ) so they can continue working on the design in their file. They save the copy as: Building Outline – P03.01_S0.vwx Revision sequence: Building Outline – P01.00_S0.vwx File created in WIP Building Outline – P01.01_S0.vwx First save point in WIP Building Outline – P01.02_S0.vwx Second save point in WIP Building Outline – P01_S2.vwx SHARED (S2 for information) Building Outline – P02.01_S0.vwx File returned to WIP Building Outline – P02_S2.vwx SHARED (S2 for information) Building Outline – P03.01_S0.vwx File returned to WIP Round and round the process goes… as the design progresses the suitability codes of the relevant issues will change and the revision numbers will increase. Only when a document is issued for construction will the revision code change from “Pxx” to “Cxx”; Returning back to “Pxx” should any changes need to be done then re-issued as “Cxx” as needed, see below.
  2. Sorry for the late reply was off sick last week and only now back on my feet. I found my notes from the work I was doing regarding a viaduct curve etc., the best results I obtained at the time I have translated into the workflow below relating to your original model. I have had to convert the model up to 2020 version as this is all I have on this workstation at the moment but workflow should work in previous versions without to much change. I selected the RHS branch from the screen shot below to apply the workflow, Double click to edit the symbol and select “3D Component” to edit You will need to double click until you get the option to edit profile With the NURBS Curve selected; From the OIP we can see the “Degree” is set to 4 If we change the “Degree” to a higher number say: 7 Additional points are created (If you want you can change the Weight" value.... it doesn't do anything... but you've paid for it so you might as well give it a go, ha it might work one day) With the NURBS curve still selected now convert to a 3D Poly: Modify > Convert > Convert to 3D Polys The additional points are added and distributes more evenly along the curve Exit the path Double click on the object and now edit the “Profile” With the profile selected also convert this to a 3D Poly: Modify > Convert > Convert to 3D Polys Now exit out and check the results Original: Converted: It’s the best your going to get from VW 😞 Visually smother but due to the conversion and issues with NURBS curves etc., only the start and end points pass through the original points, all other points have moved off of their original line
  3. No, raised it as a potential but but never heard back from anyone. Agreed; In you screen shot above the orange line shows the true geometry of the curve but the VGM is simplifying the curve by faceting it. Had a similar problem many years ago with Bentley MX Rail, doing rail alignment, all curves were displayed as faceted, took several weeks for someone to find out there was a check box within the application to enable curve fitting which once checked produced nice smooth curves, unfortunately it doesn't look like Vectorworks has this capability. But as I found without having a curve pass through the points as intended you will always end up with something that is an approximation and not what I needed to work with other design teams, when I passed some sections over to them they did not match the sections they created, slightly out each time due to the faceting problem.
  4. I did some time ago do a comparison of the lack of accuracy relating to the faceting problem with curves, I compared the results from Vectorwork, AutoCAD, ArchiCAD and Microstation and found the results interesting which does pose a problem when trying to work with others
  5. Yep, went through the same process but gave up as results were not good, after several days of trying splashed out £200 and bought ProgeCAD, took about 10 minutes to do it and import in to Vectorworks. The amount of time I spent trying to get a smooth result out weighed the cost of something that worked.
  6. I’ve encountered similar problems with NURBS curves, (coincidently also trying to model a viaduct) selecting interpolated points mode I placed the NURBS curves through the alignment points I was given bu the client but the NURBS curves failed to pass through the points, it came close but not through. Similar problem as described above where the curve was faceted, adjusting the degree and weight made little difference. The way I managed to get something as close to acceptable as possible by creating the curve in another package and then importing in to Vectorworks. What may help was a Marionette script I found on the forum that Marissa created for someone wanting to divide a a curve into segments which does a similar thing, this may help
  7. I have also found the same results using 2020, the curves are not displaying as the video.
  8. Just found this one relating to replacement of window styles: 1. Create a new document 2. Place a wall (unstyled) a couple of meters long 3. Switch to an isometric view in wireframe (just to make it easier to see) 4. Insert a window into the wall: Example used = Standard window metric library – “Window Bottom Hung Casement” 5. Select the windows and then from the OIP select: STYLE > REPLACE now replace the original placed windows with with a larger window (so you can see the problem): Example used = “Window Awning half circle 2W” from the “Custom Windows Metric” library. and then select OK The original window style is still visible (but displayed as a triple panel window) alongside the new replaced style. 6. Select the window (they both are selected as if one) and in the OIP select settings The preview shows both the original placed window style and the replaced window style 7. Selecting the window again and then in the OIP select: STYLE > EDIT STYLE The replaced style is shown correctly ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯ Vectorworks 2020 Windows 10
  9. Oops, sorry forgot to update signature. I'm on 2019 now (... just updated my signature) it should now show that correctly. Many thanks for providing a solution to my problem, I'll have a look at your network and see how it works. I assume the "tuple" node is a custom node you created?
  10. Did try the extract line tool but the DTM when ungrouped only gives you a line between two points due to the triangulation and not a continuous line bwtween all of the points. Attached is what I am trying to end up with, a continuous 3D line bwtween all of the points. I was wondering if Marionette had the capability of reading a text file with x,y,z coordinates in and passing this to the relevent node 10 metre points xyz.vwx
  11. Thanks Hans-Olav for the quick reply, In this instance the design line represents an edge of a walkway/ramp (not a surface) that we have to work up to and use as our design line to work from. I did try creating a DTM from the points but the amount of work needed to get back to a single 3D line prompted me to see if there was a quicker way to do this. All that is needed is a 3D line that passing through the points
  12. I’m trying to input a series of point that were delivered in x,y,z format in a text file that define a design line to work from. I’m able to load these points into Vectorworks using the “Import Survey File” as 3D Locus but haven't found a way to draw a 3D polygon line through these points other than doing it manually which is very time consuming when there are hundreds of points. At the moment I have to take the text file and turn it into an AutoCAD script by adding the command “3Dpoly” as the first line of the file and then run the script within AutoCAD where is creates the design line, after this I have to import into Vectorworks. Where this does work it is time consuming and does require an additional CAD package to do this. I have been looking for a way to do the same within Vectorworks but so far have been unsuccessful and though Marionette might have a way to do this but my knowledge of Marionette is very limited at the moment and could not find a way to read the values from the text file,;any assistance with this would be much appreciated. Example x,y,z file attached. 10 metre points xyz.txt
  13. Had a little play with your file; I exported it from ProgeCAD (didnt have AutoCAD) as a STEP file which came into Vectorworks displaying all surfaces. From there it was a quick extrude and copy for the treads, copies the stringer frames to the side and traced over, extruded and copied back into place, quick sutraction of the posts at the bottom and delete all old surfaces. just under 10 mins while I was waiting for AECOsimto finish rendering a plot. Stair - STEP converted.vwx
  14. I did try and join the on-line QnA last week but was working late and the company I am working with at the moment has Facebook on it blocked list, so was unable to join. Q. Nothing was mentioned in the video or text in your original post to say if “Boolean” search could be used in any of the search fields. Having the ability to use operators (or modifiers) i.e., AND, NOT and OR and also quotes “”, would just about round off the search capabilities. The Boolean Search could be incorporated as an option at the end of each line to include another search line and provide this capability graphically. Ps. "Boolean" search capabilities would also allow you to include (None and Dimension) within your search. Q. Also is there a limit to the number of “TAGs” that can be associated to a layer, class... etc?
  15. I have been using the "Drilled Footing" tool to place piles on a project I am working on at the moment. The project requires straight piles (no bell end to them) so I have been setting the "Bell width" and "Bell height" to 0. All displays correctly but when I checked the length and toe level they are not correct. Example of 600mm pile with a toe level of -5000. 1. Create a new file 2. Select: Building Shell> Drilled Footing 3. Enter the following: x = 0 y = 0 z = 0 Rotation = 0 Diameter = 600 Bell width = 0 Bell height = 0 Top datum = 0 Bearing datum = -5000 Now check the top and bottom levels of the pile (drilled footing): Top level = 0 Bottom level = -5300 Measured length = 5300 The length should be 5000 but it has increased by 300 However if I set: Bell width = 600 (same diameter as the rest of the pile (drilled footing)) and Bell height = 0 the pile is now drawn and measures correctly. Is this the only way to draw a pile without the bell end; should entering a bell height and width of 0 give the correct length? It would useful if the ("z" /Top Datum) could be tied into the stories.

 

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