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I'm new to vectorworks. i'm looking for a stretch tool. some way to easily grab a corner or end of a whole building and stretch it or compress it or re shape multiple objects with one command or tool. any help?

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If you are using walls, and if the walls are joined, you can strecth or move them in the way you describe above. Objects inserted into walls (like doors & windows) will probably need have their positions adjusted after doing so. Hope that helps.

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i'm looking for something a bit more universal than that. a way to grab a multitude of walls, windows and all the information inside of them and stretch them. both autocadand microstation have this function. it seems pretty simple, but i have not found this tool in vectorworks yet

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Select the items you want to stretch, use the 2D reshape tool to encompass the points to stretch. Holding alt will give you a lasso as opposed to the rectangular marquee. Click & drag within the marquee, tabbing to input numbers in top if necessary.

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You can select the whole building, Group it, then stretch the group just as you would a rectangle, by grabbing one of the corners or midpoints and dragging. And then UnGroup if you want. That will stretch everything proportionally in the direction(s) stretched.

And there's also the Scale Objects command, which re-sizes all the selected stuff by a numerical factor, either symmetrically or by different factors for different directions.

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Thank you jan15 ... in the old days this did not always work for 3D objects ... but now the power to modify Groups and Scale Objects is incredible especially in 3D space. I especially appreciate the ability to Scale Object as X,Y,Z or as X or Y ... very handy for instantly tweeking 3D objects without affecting the Z.

Groups rock ... it's all about groupings...

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You said it, Islandmon. Groups are way under-rated.

They do a lot of the things people try to do with layers and classes, but they do it much quicker and more conveniently, without having to deal with names and long drop-down lists.

Sketchup has made very good use of this concept also, probably borrowing from VW.

Autocad users... sorry. They missed the concept completely. Autocad's Group is a cheap imitation, like those pocket computers they sell at the dollar store.

[ 07-09-2005, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: jan15 ]

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any way to stretch a group without changing the proportion of everything in the group? say I want to increase the width of 2d group, but don't wish to modify all the elements within the group.

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jmd, use the Enter Group command, do your stretching with the 2D Reshape tool, then exit the group.

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Robert-

I see what you are saying, but if i am following your advice correctly, I can't manipulate a group with the reshape tool. it will work only on a polyline. I can use the rescale tool on a group, but again this effects everything in the group, not just items in a specified area.

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quote:

Originally posted by jmd:

any way to stretch a group without changing the proportion of everything in the group?

You could make a temporary symbol out of the things you want to keep the same. A symbol doesn't change size or shape when you drag-stretch the symbol or a group that it's in.

It might help to say exactly what you're trying to do. For example, if you want to make the building footprint bigger but keep the wall thicknesses the same, the solution might be to draw with the Wall tool.

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mike,

Why we don't have the functionality of the stretch and copy tools from Vectorbits as standard in the Vectorworks package is beyond me...They just seem like the right way 'copy' and 'stretch' should work...

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Jacques - I agree. Other 3D modelling programs have had this capability for quite some time.

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The Stretch and Vector Move look great! Anybody have a free script for this? It may be worth $100 for these, but it is something that should be built-in to the program itself.

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jan15, you can slam AC for a lousy group command, at least I never found it to be very effective. But AC does have an excellent stretch, plus relative point to point copy and move functions. I downloaded these functions from VectorBits, but cannot see why they are not part of the basic VW tool set.

I too would like to be able to do a stretch through section of a plan that would stretch all objects from one edge of a marquee, that would stretch all the objects that it crosses, windows, doors, groups, wall etc, without it distorting the proportions of any of the elements.

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