MikeN Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 I've just been trying out the Massing Model tool in v10 and have found that the roof styles don't seem to be working. Is this a bug? Am I supposed to designate which styles to choose from? If so, how do I create the styles? The manual mentions nothing. Any help would be beneficial. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Robert Anderson Posted November 4, 2002 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 4, 2002 The roof "style" popup allows you to assign a class to the roof independently of the object itself so you can give it a different graphic style (i.e. color and fill.) Quote Link to comment
MikeN Posted November 7, 2002 Author Share Posted November 7, 2002 OK I understand. I've also noticed that the pitched roof option only gives you a hip roof and not a gabled roof. What's up with that? I know you can edit the roof once its been created but that takes too long. Quote Link to comment
David Seibert Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 In any case, the massing model tool is truly useless. Can I get a rebate of $7.95 and send it back? (ha ha) Quote Link to comment
MikeN Posted November 8, 2002 Author Share Posted November 8, 2002 I'd like to return the Campinile tool too. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Robert Anderson Posted November 8, 2002 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 8, 2002 The Massing Model tool does just what it claims: it creates a massing model. It creates a hip roof when the sloped roof option is chosen because a hip roof is the most "generic" style of sloped roof. It is aimed at people creating generic surrounding settings for urban or campus style designs, etc. and not as a detailed building modeler. Quote Link to comment
Speedy Gonzales Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Try SketchUp and then import your study model (to scale) into VectorWorks. Very quick and easy, not to mention fun! Quote Link to comment
Andrew G. Buck Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 re: It creates a hip roof when the sloped roof option is chosen because a hip roof is the most "generic" style of sloped roof. A hip roof is not the most generic roof style in New England, especially in an urban residential setting like Boston. This is disappointing. A "generic" model builder should at least have the ability to build a shed or a gabled roof. It's kinda hard to get a model taken seriously if the roof is wrong. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Andrew If you go into a 3D view and Convert to Group the Quick Building object it will revert to a series of extrudes for the building exterior walls and a Roof Object. The required ends of the Roof Object can then be converted to gables. Note: If you Convert to Group in Top / Plan View you will not get the 3D walls. Instead you will get a dotted 2D rectangle with the building area etc. Quote Link to comment
Damon Design Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Mike that is a great tip and as a long-time user never stumbled into that. That solves Andrew's problem perfectly. It's starting to pay off spending a little more time here each day and discovering other user's knowledge Cheers Quote Link to comment
higgins Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 If you go into a 3D view and Convert to Group the Quick Building object it will revert to a series of extrudes for the building exterior walls and a Roof Object. The required ends of the Roof Object can then be converted to gables. This is an awsome tip! But how do you connect the roof back to the building, so the object becomes a massing model again? Plain grouping is no good since you can't change attiributes afterwards, send them to surface etc. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 You are snookered unfortunately. It is a one way process. Perhaps the thing to do would be to quickly trace the extrudes to create walls and then delete the extrudes. If NNA could allow us to "Enter the Group" and edit the roof the tool would be far more useful. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Another way to get a roof form other than hipped would be to have a minimal flat roof on the massing model (or make it an invisible class), and then to model a separate roof object on top of it with the form that you want. You could either model the connecting walls separately or use the gable walls option on the Roof Object. Quote Link to comment
higgins Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Thanks for quick replies! I sure wish we could enter the group as well... or better yet. Choose the roof type from the options as we create the models. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Too many permutations and ambiguities I think. Quote Link to comment
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