Christiaan Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Anybody used this in conjunction with Vectorworks? Looks great: http://www.morpholioapps.com/trace/ 3 Quote Link to comment
elepp Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I haven't tried it yet, but was looking into the app. Saw it in conjunction with the shapr3D app, because they both support the new 3d file format from Apple. Don't know if Morpholio Trace is supporting other file formats though. Maybe Vectorworks will introduce a new export option to USDZ-file format in the 2020 version. 2 Quote Link to comment
elepp Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) I looked a bit more into it and found that the app supports obj, so it might work that way with Vectorworks. Setup in Morpholio Trace seems to be quite straight forward. https://medium.com/@morpholio/how-to-sketch-with-live-3d-models-f7e45c520626 Edited February 6, 2019 by elepp 1 Quote Link to comment
Taproot Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 @Christiaan I'm curious if you went that way. I tried it for a while but wasn't satisfied with it. I also tried a number of other architectural sketching apps before finally settling on Procreate. Digsketch has some videos on YouTube which showed me what was possible and convinced me to give it a go. The interface is elegant and after some use - it's hands down better than everything else that I tried. 1 Quote Link to comment
E|FA Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I've been using Trace for a while now, and am pretty happy with it. After looking at most (?) of the alternatives, I found it closest to be the best paperless way to mimic how I use a roll of trace to work through loose ideas before starting to look at them in VW. Starting with a blank page or an image underlay (PDF, aerial photo, etc) I just start working up transparent layers, saving some, turning some off, and deleting most. I only use a few pen styles and avoid most of the fancy tools. Nothing is meant to look good or to be presented to clients. For that workflow it's a great tool. One problem is that it doesn't sync between devices. You can export PDFs, but not native format files. @Taproot I found it difficult to manage layers and transparencies in the little time I tried Procreate. Would you recommend taking a second look? Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Taproot Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) @E|FA The learning curve with software takes a lot more up front, so if you find one that you're comfortable with then that's a big hurdle overcome and sticking with it may be the easier course. Layer opacity in Procreate is super easy. Select the layer, then the selection wand icon (Gallery, Wrench, Wand menu at top left). The first choice in the pop up menu is "Opacity" and you just slide your finger left or right on the screen to set it to whatever looks right to you. I also really like the layers ... you can easily add layers (hit the + button) or pinch two of them together to combine them.... If you really want a long term robust app, then it's definitely worth a second look. To do so, take the 30 minutes to view some experienced tutorials. Most of the features aren't spelled out for you, but once you start using them you see how thoughtful and intuitive they are to use on the fly. I especially like the way in which it toggles between constrained and unconstrained modes. You can easily toggle "assisted drawing" mode on and off and if you're drawing freehand, you can just hold the pen down and it will automatically lock in a constrained mode for drawing straight lines, circles, etc... Here's a quick test where I imported a photo, reduced its opacity and then traced over it before deleting it. Just a few minutes of effort. Edited May 1, 2020 by Taproot 5 Quote Link to comment
E|FA Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Thanks. I'll try playing with it a little more. Being able to merge layers would be a plus. Quote Link to comment
Donald G. Martin Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Hi guys ! I was about to start a post on this app ... (found someone beat me to it... LOL) I’ve been using ‘Trace’ for a while and also have ... ‘ProCreate’ ... as well as Tayasui ‘Sketches’ ...etc.. I must say all of them have great Pro’s and also ... Con’s As an architect I was looking for a way to go back to roots ... (... those initial drafting stages where I could more or less draw something that comes to mind and start to get conceptual ideas down on paper (iPad) and allow me to chat with my clients...) I needed to find an app that could give me the capacity to sketch and enhance visions ... and also give me dimensions (...and surface areas) to what I was putting down ... and I’ve found that Morpholio Trace was the closest to giving me that capability... (using the perspective aid and surface area tools... awesome!) Apart from this one ... have you guys found any other ‘freehand’ drafting technical drawing app ... similar to this one that can communicate with VW easily? I tend to transfer my work afterwards, through PDF files and would love to find one that could transfer directly to VW maintaining dimensiones and any ‘vectorial traces’ ... The others I mention ... are all Great ‘freehand’ drawing alternatives ... that can be used to enhance really nicely an idea (which Trace does fairly well)... ... but they lack that technical capacity to give me an idea of scale ... or ‘size’... which is really important ... LOL watta ya know ... looks like SIZE does matter...! LOL 1 Quote Link to comment
Taproot Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 @Donald G. Martin CONCEPTS was one of the other apps that I liked before I settled on ProCreate. It has some nice features, but if you favor TRACE, my recommendation is to just stick with it. I've found that once you find an app that you mostly like - practice generally reveals work-arounds for the problems. Case in point - Vectorworks. Finding my way around software obstacles has definitely enhanced my problem solving skills! 2 Quote Link to comment
E|FA Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) I tested ProCreate but ended up sticking with Trace. Not perfect, but works for me. You can set the scale in Trace, export PDFs, and import them to VW. I don't think they're snappable, but I've never tried. I use Trace as a digital equivalent to old school rolls of trace. I couldn't import that stuff to VW either. Edited February 9, 2021 by E|FA 1 Quote Link to comment
Donald G. Martin Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the feed back ! ... I’ve also found that once you start using an app you get to know ‘work arounds’ that ease the workflow... Procreate and Sketches are also awesome drawing apps that have great tools for expressive purposes ! ... but I was looking for a similar ‘technical freehand drafting’ app ... that may have had more tools than ‘Trace’ ... thanks for the heads up! Edited February 10, 2021 by Donald G. Martin 1 Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) On 4/30/2020 at 5:52 PM, Taproot said: @Christiaan I'm curious if you went that way. I haven't tried any in earnest yet and this discussion thread has given me choice paralysis 😆 On 4/30/2020 at 5:52 PM, Taproot said: Digsketch has some videos on YouTube This link is slightly misconfigured in your post btw. Edited February 10, 2021 by Christiaan Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) Has anybody tried Archisketch? Edited February 10, 2021 by Christiaan Quote Link to comment
Taproot Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 @Christiaan I gave it a go. Pluses: Simple to use and understand - great tutorials The grid tools are excellent Cons: The icons and text are too small for my eyes. Importing PDF's is somewhat limited: Via Adobe Creative Cloud or iCloud (for an additional fee) Doesn't utilize gestures well - i.e. Undo is a tiny button in the lower corner. Redo is a tinier button in the lower corner. That's as far as I got before I decided that I prefer what I'm using already. Some may prefer it over TRACE and ProCreate, etc, but not me. 1 Quote Link to comment
AdamRoxby Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Hi, Im new to Trace and quite like it. Ive historically done all my marking up in Acrobat Pro, but I'm limited to using my laptop as the iPad version is lightweight and doesnt carry all the functions I need. Trace is a good fit in that regard (iPad friendly). As I still work in both platforms (Acrobat & Trace) I've discovered that any PDF's that I import into Trace that I've already started marking up in Acrobat, wont import the Acrobat mark ups only the original PDF image. Apart from taking a screen shot of the marked up Acrobat image, is there any better way to bring in Acrobat files compete with edits? Quote Link to comment
Greg_at_ils Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I'm just rediscovering TRACE after experimenting with it when it first appeared. It's really evolved into quite a slick app in so many ways. After looking at many of the other apps noted here I think I'm going to try it out more extensively and see if it's something I can make part of my workflow. I would love for an app like this to have a plugin in VW to more easily and extensively exchange content. Been longing for a workflow like that for some time. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) On 5/8/2021 at 4:45 AM, AdamRoxby said: Apart from taking a screen shot of the marked up Acrobat image, is there any better way to bring in Acrobat files compete with edits? Maybe try opening and saving them in Preview.app on macOS first? Or opening them, adding an annotation of any description, then saving them in Preview.app on macOS. Edited May 11, 2021 by Christiaan Quote Link to comment
Greg_at_ils Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 If TRACE is not recognizing the annotation layer within the PDF it not likely to work with Preview annotations either. Hopefully I'm wrong but if not one would need to flatten the PDF first and then import into TRACE. Unfortunately you can't edit them then. Sounds like a TRACE feature request. @Christiaan, did you ever make a decision on using this app or something else? Quote Link to comment
E|FA Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I have never tried to even check to see if Trace can generate a vector PDF that is clickable in VW. I treat it entirely as a replacement for pen & paper, and if I do bring my sketches into VW they are imported as bitmaps. It's great for sketching, especially overlaid on photos or imported drawings, but if I need dimensional accuracy I use VW directly. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 15 hours ago, Doubledge said: @Christiaan, did you ever make a decision on using this app or something else? No, not yet. Quote Link to comment
Taproot Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 @AdamRoxby For PDF markups, I prefer PDF Expert. I have come around to using Trace as well, but find it better for design sketching. Quote Link to comment
E|FA Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Taproot said: For PDF markups, I prefer PDF Expert. I have come around to using Trace as well, but find it better for design sketching. Same here. I also use Notability during client meetings. I import PDFs to mark up, but can also include photos, add sketches, and take notes. Quote Link to comment
E|FA Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 VW featured Morpholio in the video for the new integration with the iOS files app. There's a video on VW University called "VECTORWORKS CLOUD SERVICES IMPROVEMENTS IN SP3 FOR 2022". I haven't tried this out or figured out what the benefits might be, but it starts at about 1:50 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Luis M Ruiz Posted March 17, 2022 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 17, 2022 If you know and love sketching for jobs, you’ll feel right at home. How to use them both? Here is what I’ve been doing for my projects: you can model in vwx let’s say, some massing models, bring it into Morpholio, rotate your 3d shapes until you find the right angle, then create a sketching layer on top and start sketching. ok, all good so far, pretty fun. Now it comes the time to bring that sketch into vwx. Export the image and save it in a Nomad, then import it into vwx but as a reference, that’s a useful ticket. If you keep making your sketch prettier or just change a few things, and replace the image in nomad, then in vwx is just a matter of updating the reference. I personally like using this method for storyboarding videos o just doodling a future rendering. Or just for a quick floor plan sketch. 2 Quote Link to comment
E|FA Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) @Luis M Ruiz I need some clarification: 1. When you say "bring it into Morpholio", what file format are you using? I typically take a screenshot or create a PDF (usually through Mac print interface) from VW, and then import that to Morpholio. Am I missing something? 2. Similar question regarding "Export the image and save it in a Nomad". I typically export "Image" or "PDF" from Morpholio. Do I export "Project"? And after that how do you open that and "save it in a Nomad"? 3. What file format will I end up in Nomad and where will the file be stored to then reference back into VW? Morpholio is my primary tool on the iPad, and VW is my primary tool on the Mac, so I'm looking forward to getting them to work together better. Thanks! Nomad error.pdf Edited March 17, 2022 by E|FA Quote Link to comment
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