Videogame Walkthrough 2018 Acting Funny?

[Tom Klaber]

The video game walkthrough mode seems to be weird in 2018.  I thought my mouse was broken, but all other tests seem to show that something in the mode has changed and it is not responding to mouse inputs the same way.  Anybody else experiencing t

[Tom Klaber]

CONFIRMED.

Backed saved to 2017 - and video game walkthrough works as expected.

 

@JimWDid they change the walkthrough algorithm?  Is there a missing setting?  It's unusable in 2018 as is....  

[PVA - Admin]

I am not seeing a change, I DID notice an issue at the Summit where 2018 if it had more than one document open and doing anything related to the VGM (Top/plan or 3D view on the design layer) that view changes including the walkthrough tool stopped working intermittantly.

Are you able to replicate this in a simple 2018 test file with no other 2018 docs open as well?

[Tom Klaber]

Confirmed.

Getting the same weird laggy issue with a single rectangle extrude.

It looks like the mouse needs a mouse pad - which is what I thought at first.  There is weird lag - jiggering - then sometimes slow continuing motion after the mouse has stopped moving.

 

Are you testing on Windows?

 

I have done 2 restarts.

 

I would just move back to 2017 except I converted all my titleblocks...:)

 

[Tom Klaber]

For now - I guess I can export back to 2017 for presentations - but this is really strange.  I will try and make a video.

[michaelk]

@JimW

I'm seeing it, too.

 

Doesn't matter if I have a usb mouse plugged in or if I use the track pad.  As soon as I click initially when in Gamer mode it goes crazy.

 

 

[Tom Klaber]

Yeah - it really reads as a dead mouse - but it is actually VW trying to keep up and failing.

Just tested a 3rd time - and sure enough - my big bloated file works fine when I save back to 2017 - but the mode is not usable in 2018.

[michaelk]

This is what I'm seeing:

 

Walkthrough Spin.mp4

[Tom Klaber]

oh - way different than me.....

 

This is what I have - this is me trying to walk through and turn around:
Walkthrough Bad1.webm

 

More subtle - but has still made it impossible to use the walkthrough tool.

[michaelk]

New, somewhat sad, information.

 

If I unplug everything from my computer (2 month old 15" MBP) it works.

 

If I plug in my fancy new 43" 4K monitor:  craziness.

 

 

[Tom Klaber]

ooooo

 

let me check that.

[michaelk]

@JimWIs there any info I can provide to help track this down?

 

[Tom Klaber]

2 minutes ago, michaelk said:

New, somewhat sad, information.

 

If I unplug everything from my computer (2 month old 15" MBP) it works.

 

If I plug in my fancy new 43" 4K monitor:  craziness.

 

 

 

Yup.  I am on a laptop - when I unplug my external monitor - it seems to work.

Funny that 2017 can handle 2 screens no problem, but 2018 can not.

 

43"!  That is biggg.

I have a 40" - people make fun of it - but after 30 minutes - you never want to go back.

 

[PVA - Admin]

So, this is weird. I am able to replicate this issue if I use Teamviewer or Synergy, two control softwares I use to control more than one machine from the same keyboard and mouse. It goes completely haywire the instant I click, but if I use a local mouse and keyboard, I do not see the problem again.

I'm going to start fresh on this tomorrow morning, I would love this from any affected machines where the issue is actively occurring please, itll give me at least a basic hardware list:
 

 

[michaelk]

10 minutes ago, Tom Klaber said:

43"!  That is biggg.

I have a 40" - people make fun of it - but after 30 minutes - you never want to go back.

 

I've only had it for 4 days.  It has changed my life. 

 

Now I want to buy some to leave at my clients' offices.  I can't image going back to a 27" non 4K.

[Tom Klaber]

TK_DxDiag.txt

[PVA - Admin]

Thank you all, tackling this now.

[PVA - Admin]

Semi good results. It does seem that the resolution does affect the Walkthrough tool in gamer mode. The higher it goes, the more dramatic the effect. I can't make this happen at ALL on my MacBook but I was able to get the weird drift on an older Mac Pro and get both the drift and the outright spinning out of control on a Windows machine when I hooked it to an external 4K monitor. 

Submitting this all as a bug now: VB-145917

[Tanner Shelton]

@PVA - Jim Any updates on a fix for this? I'm using 2020 and my game mode with the walkthrough tool jitters in a way similar to Tom mentioned.

[H.Lagos]

Using 2023 and still an issue...