jason schneider Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Even after three years, this is still irritating. How hard would it be to have a separate "move" command? The existing move/copy command doesn't even need to change - just a separate move command. Or am I just screaming into the void? That's better... I feel better. Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Are you talking about the Move menu command, the Move By Points tool or something else? 1 Quote Link to comment
EAlexander Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) There is a move and a 3D move command - no copying involved. Also the move by points has a move without duplicating option. What behavior are you getting/doing? Edited November 9, 2023 by EAlexander 3 Quote Link to comment
Rolan Castaneda Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, jason schneider said: Even after three years, this is still irritating. How hard would it be to have a separate "move" command? The existing move/copy command doesn't even need to change - just a separate move command. Or am I just screaming into the void? That's better... I feel better. Thanks! If this helps, I usually just set my Move settings to "move and duplicate mode" with 1 duplication. Then to copy, I have gotten used to just holding the option button (Mac). 2 Quote Link to comment
jason schneider Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 How is it, after three years, I'm just discovering he Move menu command. 😂 Thanks for the clue, Pat. This is a hangover from Autocad / Microstation / Powercadd experience where these are two separate and distinct commands. The VW Move command (from the menu) is fine, but my expectation on day one of VW was that you'd initiate the move hotkey ("M" or whatever), select a point, and then either select a second point or input distance and direction at the cursor; exactly how the "Move by points" tool works. It's having to select the Move or Copy mode after the command is initiated that feels counter intuitive. If I could wave a magic wand, I would separate the commands into two: "Move by points" and "Copy by points," which I'm sure would be incredibly contentious, especially with the VW lifer's out there. I appreciate the discussion, everybody. Cheers! Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, jason schneider said: This is a hangover from Microstation experience where these are two separate and distinct commands. Same here. When I first tested VW I was not able to move or copy anything in a controlled way 🙂 9 minutes ago, jason schneider said: I would separate the commands into two: "Move by points" and "Copy by points," I also wished for that often in the past. Move by Points Tool was reworked some time ago and got much better than it was. For me it is also not yet really there but I can live with it. Opposed to Microstation where I would relocate objects exactly to a wanted position in one go, in VW I will rather copy in X, move in Y, move in Z ..... Or create a helper Cube, move to final position - just to have an autoplane underlay for the rotation tool and such things. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 At least in VW2024 (Did not check back to 2023 or earlier), the Move By Points can pretty much do both in the second mode as long as the Number of Duplicates is set to 1. Use the tool with no keys down and it functions as a Move. Hold down the Option key and it retains the Original Object thereby functioning as a Copy. HTH 1 Quote Link to comment
Elite Exhibits Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 @jason schneider Easy suggestion - Move By Points (Shift-M) set to the first Option Move Mode Move By Points If you click on your selected object, you are holding on to it and this allows a zoom / pan to a remote location click to place it or Click twice any where in the drawing (From / to Locations) and the selected object is moved by that amount / directon Copy (Duplicate) By Points Now hold the Option Key and the above process will keep the original object in its original location and place a copy Peter Move By Points_Copy by Points.mov 4 Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 That actually works in both the first and second modes as long as the number of duplicate is set to 1. When I tried with the first mode I just realized I was holding down Control instead of Option so it did not work for me. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment
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