use symbol geometry in doors problem...

[ETUD]

 

The doors I prepared do not work in VW 2024. Use symbol geometry is not working. Or what should I do to fix this?

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[Tom W.]

When you edit the Door Style 'Use symbol geometry' is not enabled + the symbol referred to doesn't seem to exist in the file:

 

I don't really understand where the Door object is getting its 2D geometry from if the source symbol isn't present. It won't let you delete those components:

 

What happens if you import the 'AL2a-ALUMINYUM' symbol into the file then enable 'Use symbol geometry'?

[ETUD]

The symbol I prepared in advance does not appear in 2024. Even if I select Use symbol, I cannot rotate the door in plan, etc.

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[ETUD]

 

The door rotation add-on in VW 2024 does not work properly. .Doors with added symbols cannot be flipped in the plan. I request that this problem be resolved urgently please.

[Tom W.]

I exported your file to VW2023 + can see what you mean.

 

You might be best submitting a bug about it: https://www3.vectorworks.net/vectorworks-bug-report

 

@Matt Panzer were you aware that a Door that uses symbol geometry behaves differently in VW2024 compared to previous versions in that it doesn't respond to flipping? 

[Pat Stanford]

Flipping of doors in VW2024 has been completely reworked.

 

My understanding is the prior to VW2024, Flipping a door would rotate/flip the entire object.

 

In VW2024 the door object itself remains in place (interior and extrerior trim remain on the same side of the wall) while the Leaf hinge point and open direction are flipped/rotated.

 

You may have to develop a new workflow for what you want to do. I have not looked at your files so I can't make any exact recommendations.

[ETUD]

Please review the drawing I sent. I cannot now use the doors I prepared for VW 2023 on VW 2024! This situation needs to be corrected. As you said, if only the door leaf rotates, the "use symbol geometry" option should be added to the door leaf section. An additional symbol should be made inside the door frame.

[Pat Stanford]

@Matt Panzer??

[Matt Panzer]

@ETUD, @Tom W., @Pat Stanford,

 

This is a known issue and we're looking into how to better handle this.

As Pat mentioned, the handling (or "handing") of door and window objects have been completely reworked so that these objects can no longer be flipped in a wall.  Instead, parameters must be used to change handing.  Of course, these parameters have no effect on how symbols display with the "Use symbol geometry" option.

[rDesign]

Since it seems like the custom door symbol workflow has been changed in Vw2024 from previous versions, perhaps a tutorial video on how to properly create custom door symbols in Vw2024 would be helpful?
 

Thanks.

[Matt Panzer]

6 minutes ago, rDesign said:

Since it seems like the custom door symbol workflow has been changed in Vw2024 from previous versions, perhaps a tutorial video on how to properly create custom door symbols in Vw2024 would be helpful?
 

Thanks.

 

Currently, the only way to handle this would be to create four different versions of your symbol each representing a different flip state.  This is NOT what we expect you to do but it is the only way to get it to work in the initial VW 2024 release.

[ETUD]

Then we have to unstyled the doors ...! Iam going back to WV2013

[Tom W.]

@ETUD looks promising...

[ETUD]

Yes only for single door leaf. Double doors are not able to rotate in or out !!!

I really do not understand. Since it is not possible to add user provided 2D components, why is it still in the door settings?

This issue is a real problem for 2024. Was it necessary to make this change when there was a flip command?

 

[Jay Pettis]

Maybe this question as been answered, but after many trial and error attempts; I have not been successful in creating a custom door leafs from an imported 3D symbol in VW24. After converting the imported symbol into a new symbol to be exported to the "custom leaves" library, the door symbol disappears when applied using the door tool.

All of the appropriate classes are visible. Am I missing something?