Kevin K Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 You all are probably well aware of this, but the 'Tapered Extrude' tool can facilitate some cool stuff, that can't easily be achieved by other methodologies for say...creating a label for a wine bottle, in seconds. Very flexible, as well, if you would need to quickly adjust the arc chord or sweep. I simply created an an arc by 3 points in a top plan view, referencing the diameter of the wine bottle, then did a tapered extrude with no angle, and voila ! Just a little 'FYI' for those who may be interested. :-) Note the rendering.... 3 Quote Link to comment
line-weight Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 It's true, I've never paid that much attention to the tapered extrude, and fiddling with it just now makes me thing I should remember it's there for various use cases. However, for the wine label, what advantage does it have over a regular extrude? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Stephan Moenninghoff Posted October 26, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, line-weight said: However, for the wine label, what advantage does it have over a regular extrude? Extruding an arc gives you a pie, which you then need to shell to get rid of the sides. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Stephan Moenninghoff Posted October 26, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Kevin K said: You all are probably well aware of this, but the 'Tapered Extrude' tool can facilitate some cool stuff, that can't easily be achieved by other methodologies for say...creating a label for a wine bottle, in seconds. Very flexible, as well, if you would need to quickly adjust the arc chord or sweep. I simply created an an arc by 3 points in a top plan view, referencing the diameter of the wine bottle, then did a tapered extrude with no angle, and voila ! Just a little 'FYI' for those who may be interested. 🙂 Note the rendering.... Is that a 3D salad? Quote Link to comment
line-weight Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Stephan Moenninghoff said: Extruding an arc gives you a pie, which you then need to shell to get rid of the sides. A tapered extrude gives me a pie as well. Quote Link to comment
Kevin K Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 If you make an arc....give it a none fill, then use tapered extrude, you will get a nice clean object, which you can then apply a texture to, etc. if you leave the arc as a solid, then it is 'pie time'. :-) Try the arc with a none fill, then tapered extrude it..... line-weight, you had previously asked why not a regular extrude....well, as you now realize, if you extrude an arc using just the basic extrude function, you get the pie shaped object... ...and yes, Stephan, a 3d Greek salad to be precise. :-) if you click on that attached image it should open it up with better resolution, then drag it off to your desktop so you can open it and zoom in a bit to see more detail. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Stephan Moenninghoff Posted October 26, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kevin K said: ...and yes, Stephan, a 3d Greek salad to be precise. 🙂 Awesome. Did you model that yourself? Quote Link to comment
line-weight Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kevin K said: line-weight, you had previously asked why not a regular extrude....well, as you now realize, if you extrude an arc using just the basic extrude function, you get the pie shaped object... Yes I see now. Useful to know. One of those VW inconsistencies for no apparent reason. Edited October 26, 2020 by line-weight Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Stephan Moenninghoff Posted October 26, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kevin K said: give it a none fill, Sorry, I forgot that part. Yes, of course you need a none fill and then you set it to filled after the extrusion. Quote Link to comment
Kevin K Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Heck no.....wayyyy too much work making all those objects in the salad...:-) I buy quite a few items from the Turbosquid site....then import them in OBJ format.....that seems to be the best import format to use to keep all the original materials and textures intact. I use Cinema 4d to get the best render results, but Renderworks can do a decent job for most instances... Quote Link to comment
Kevin K Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 The rendering I attached was done in VW using Custom RW with interior 16 bounces....You really need to use 16 bounces to get the best results, in my experience. Quote Link to comment
Andy Broomell Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) The pie-shaped fill of an arc (both in 2D and the pie-shaped 3D extrude it creates) has NEVER made sense to me and always causes me issues & annoyance. Edited October 26, 2020 by Andy Broomell 1 Quote Link to comment
Kevin K Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Andy....indeed....that was the reason I posted my comment about the 'tapered extrude'.....it does stuff that you can't easily achieve with other methods to extrude things. 1 Quote Link to comment
Kevin K Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Anyway.....it's not like I expect you guys to make a bunch of wine labels...... :-) it was more about extrusion options, in general. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Stephan Moenninghoff Posted October 26, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) I have downloaded some very good objects from https://archive3d.net. The vegetables and cookie jar and even the roast turkey was from there IIRC. You need to try them out though. Some are good, others aren't. Edited October 26, 2020 by Stephan Moenninghoff 2 Quote Link to comment
Kevin K Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Thanks for that link. I will definitely check it out. I do a lot of rendering, so I am always on the hunt for sites that offer good 3D items. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Stephan Moenninghoff Posted November 2, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 2, 2020 I found a source for 3d-scanned objects: https://sketchfab.com/. Stumbled upon these guys while looking for vegetable symbols. As always, quality varies but generally very good. Some free objects, some paid for. This is a rendered viewport. 4 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Stephan Moenninghoff Posted November 2, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 2, 2020 BTW the object arrays are all done via Marionette. Each green box has a Marionette of just a single symbol which is scaled, rotated and displaced with controlled random values. It's the next best thing to a real gravity and collision control function which Vectorworks does not have. 2 Quote Link to comment
Peter Neufeld Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Hello, In my Renderworks classes (remember when people could sit next to each other in a room?) one exercise I get them to do is precisely that of using Decals to create a label for a wine bottle. Not meaning to hijack this interesting thread but thought I'd mention it. Anyone got any good examples of Decals? Cheers, Peter Quote Link to comment
line-weight Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Stephan Moenninghoff said: BTW the object arrays are all done via Marionette. Each green box has a Marionette of just a single symbol which is scaled, rotated and displaced with controlled random values. It's the next best thing to a real gravity and collision control function which Vectorworks does not have. I think I can spot a few radishes and tomatoes which have intersected with their crates.... Quote Link to comment
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