Allow the Reshape Tool and Move by Points tool to work together to "stretch" vertices

[Bill Treen]

Currently, we can use the move by points tool to move objects. It seems natural that we should be able to move vertices of objects using the Move By Points tool too.

We should be able to select vertices of objects (invoke the reshape tool), select the desired vertices, then invoke the move by points tool (vertices still selected) and "stretch" the vertices by points.

In the example below, I want to relocate the two selected vertices so they are 4'-0" away from the black line using a "Stretch by points mode"
With the vertices selected we should be able to initiate the move by points tool to relocate these vertices to the desired location.

Currently, this is not possible. The current work flow to accomplish this is un-necessarily complicated.

Please allow these tools to function together to create a "stretch by points" mode.
 

[Tom W.]

8 minutes ago, Bill Treen said:

The current work flow to accomplish this is un-necessarily complicated.

 

What is your current workflow? I would just hit tab, right arrow then enter +4' in the floating data bar + hit return twice.

[Andy Broomell]

I agree that’d be nice.

 

But in the meantime, another things that works is once you marquee over the vertices, you can actually use the Move command (Cmd+M) to type in a value to move only the selected vertices.

[zoomer]

Generally I also always asked for a consolidation of Select/Move or

any other Command that includes a Move option and the

Move by Points Tool.

 

I think the recommended way would be by using the "G" key.

That should allow to reset the move at a certain point, before

you enter the values from there.

Problem is that I try to use "G" every few years again but

so far never was able to make it do what I want or expect.

Seems I am not compatible with that VW feature.

 

 

My Keep It Stupid Simple approach in this case would be

- move the points to black line

- move again away to desired location ....

 

This is also why in VW I really use Select/Drag Tool for 95%

of movements.

(Together with the "T" key to lock to a single Axis, if ever applicable)

 

And I never ever used any Select/Drag option in any other CAD

before or after VW. All had beautiful satisfying single do-it-all

Move Tool.

I think the Gold Standard for Move Tools goes to Microstation,

same for Selections and Filtering and easiest use of Axis constraints.

(On the 3D Mesh App side, it is clearly Modo !)

Edited October 17, 2023 by zoomer

[Bill Treen]

1 hour ago, Tom W. said:

 

What is your current workflow? I would just hit tab, right arrow then enter +4' in the floating data bar + hit return twice.

 

54 minutes ago, Andy Broomell said:

I agree that’d be nice.

 

But in the meantime, another things that works is once you marquee over the vertices, you can actually use the Move command (Cmd+M) to type in a value to move only the selected vertices.

That works for known distances. In the example, the distance is 4'-9 1/8". I know that because I put a dimension down. I don't want to have to do that.I  want to move the vertices in the same way that I would move the entire object, using the move by points command. That way I don't have to know the existing distance. I only need to know the distance I want. For years, I have gone to use this combo only to be reminded, it doesn't work in Vectorworks.

[Bill Treen]

31 minutes ago, zoomer said:

 

 

I think the recommended way would be by using the "G" key.

That should allow to reset the move at a certain point, before

you enter the values from there.

Doesn't work with vertices only.

32 minutes ago, zoomer said:

 

My Keep It Stupid Simple approach in this case would be

- move the points to black line

- move again away to desired location ....

 

Exactly what I am trying to improve upon.

 

[Bill Treen]

Autocad 1988 had this functionality. I've been hoping for it in VW ever since I started with minicad 5 in 1995

[Tom W.]

4 minutes ago, Bill Treen said:

 

That works for known distances. In the example, the distance is 4'-9 1/8". I know that because I put a dimension down. I don't want to have to do that.I  want to move the vertices in the same way that I would move the entire object, using the move by points command. That way I don't have to know the existing distance. I only need to know the distance I want. For years, I have gone to use this combo only to be reminded, it doesn't work in Vectorworks.

 

Sorry I misread your post. You mean using the Reference Point Mode of the tool. This would indeed be useful!

[Elite Exhibits]

4 hours ago, Tom W. said:

What is your current workflow? I would just hit tab, right arrow then enter +4' in the floating data bar + hit return twice.

 

@Tom W. - Interested in what you mention as I am unable to have it function as described 

 

 ...an example as in the first illustration by Bill Treen above ...  (May be a preference setting)

 

Expound, Please and Thank You

 

Peter

[Tom W.]

6 hours ago, Elite Exhibits said:

 

@Tom W. - Interested in what you mention as I am unable to have it function as described 

 

 ...an example as in the first illustration by Bill Treen above ...  (May be a preference setting)

 

Expound, Please and Thank You

 

Peter

 

Like this:

 

 

This is with a Rectangle but with a Polygon or Polyline using the Reshape Tool it's easier because it will show 0 in the data bar + you just enter the offset value.

 

But I understand now that @Bill Treen was talking about something else: offsetting the edge of the Rectangle 4 foot from another object

[Elite Exhibits]

@Tom W. thanks, except ...

 

Try as I might, the WIDTH box is not part of the Data Bar for me - what settings am I missing ?

 

Peter

 

[Elite Exhibits]

@Tom W. what I typically do is to Right click and change the properties - see attached

 

Peter

[Tom W.]

2 minutes ago, Elite Exhibits said:

@Tom W. what I typically do is to Right click and change the properties - see attached

 

Peter

 

Absolutely! Or in the OIP.

[Elite Exhibits]

Question here is now ... ¿ How does the WIDTH box show up in the Floating Data Bar for a Rectangle ?  (as Tom W illustrates above)

 

VW 2023 SP7 does NOT have this feature as the default - see attached 

 

Any assistance is Appreciated

 

Peter

WIDTH on the Floating Data Bar Tom W FORUM_1.pdf WIDTH NOT on the Floating Data Bar v2023 SP7_1.pdf