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What does the pdf look like if you view it in Adobe Reader? What does it print like from Preview? I have seen this but am wondering if it is a Mac OS issue.

In VW 2008 a worksheet placed on a drawing will export to DWG. In prior versions you will need a plug in called Worksheet on Drawing by Julian Carr.

If you select the imported photo and look in the object info pallet does it tell you that the photo is a bitmap? If not what does it say? How are you scaling the photo?

Christian. I am curious about the your first point. When I create a DLVP referencing a layer in another file, the classes and layers from that file are not present in my current file, so I can't override them in the sheet layer. From my perspective they seem to be 'contained' by the DLVP. If I have a class of the same name in both files, and turn visibility of that class off in my Sheet layer view port, the objects in that class in the current file become invisible but the visibility of the object in that class but contained within the DLVP remains unaffected, - also expected. Right now I am thinking of this as a feature. So ... how are you overriding them at the sheet layer viewport level? I thought the design didn't allow this and can't figure out how to do it.

You may have been thinking of the 'Filter 3d polygons..' command which will put the result on a different layer. My mode of work is to select the data, create a site model choosing to retain the data in the layer, and then to move the site model (one object) to a different layer. It is not appreciably more difficult than what you seek but the end result is the same. Important with either of the above to ensure that the Z value of the layers is the same and probably should be 0

Select the dtm and right click on it. Choose the option to edit source data. Alternatively select the Site Model and choose 'Edit Group' from the edit menu. Draw a 2d polygon around the limits that you want shown. The poly should be closed. Then, exit group. The Site Model should update with the limits shown. The fence you drew earlier just constrains the influence of Site Modifiers (pads, etc) but not the extent of the Site Model that is drawn. The polygon I am suggesting you draw will limit the portion of the Site Model you can see. Think of it as a crop line.

To recover your source data simply select the site model. Use the menu command (it must be from the menu in vw 12) to 'edit group'. Select all, copy. Exit the group (site model) and paste. Don't delete all your site modifiers yet. Also check to see that only used modifiers on current layer is turned on. This can help isolate the offending result. You don't have a nurbs road do you? Dean

Do you have any plugins that might have a site modifier hidden within? Things like road objects, landscape walls, massing models or hardscapes can have pads hidden within.

ahh, you caught that! :-)

Woops, Export is a VW 2008 feature. In 12.5 you can right click on the plant in the resource browser, edit the 2d component, select the symbol there, and edit the attached record. The changes you make will only affect plants you place after that point. (although you could select the plants and replace with same...) To get these into a library file you must make the Library file the active file, browse the 'source' file in the resource browser, right click on the plant object and import. The part of the workflow you are looking at is dramatically improved in 2008. Looks like I should have been more careful reading your original post...

Do you see an option to import? This would mean that the File that you are browsing in the resource browser is not the active file. If it is the active file you should have an export option. In VW 2008, clicking on the 'house' icon in the resource browser will make the active file the file being browsed in the resource browser.

Problem is Petri, that dhbrown is asking how to do this with plant objects not symbols. So, it isn't a question of superior or inferior - be it symbol or plant object; it is a question of how the plant object works. Perhaps if you reread the original question you might understand what is being asked? In this case the user was assuming that these records were simple records attached to simple symbols. This isn't the case and they don't behave in the same way. That is what led to his/her question. Beyond that, for most users feature has strong advantages when it comes to doing planting design - which is what the tool is designed for. You obviously, don't need help to stay consistent, nor to benefit from these advantages, but many do...

Default values: edit the plant data records of the symbol definitions. This won't change existing, inserted instances, only new ones. Not true, if you edit the values in the plant definitions it will change the value of the already placed plants in that file only. This is to ensure that the data attached to a given plant is consistent.

The library file is simply the file (can be any file) where you choose to collect your plant definitions. You can do this by exporting the configured definitions from the current file to your library. This can be done using the resource browser and right clicking on the plant definition to select the 'export' command. or by opening the library file and importing the definitions - (after you have changed the category settings) again using the resource browser. Even if you aren't using the plant reference database you can change this when editing the plant definition. Follow my instructions above starting with 'In your library file..."

You have to make the change in the Plant Definition. What you are doing will only apply to that instance of the plant. In your 'Library' file, using the resource browser right click on the Plant definition and choose edit. In the resulting dialog select 'Definition' and in the definition dialog choose the 'Plant Data' tab. Select the Category and click on the edit button. Type in the new Category and ok your way out of the dialogs. The category will now be set for the plant. Alternatively, If you discover a placed plant with the wrong category, right click on the placed plan and choose Edit, then follow the instruction above. The setting change will be saved with the plant definition IN THAT FILE, and will apply to all instances of that plant. In the resource browser you can then right click on the definition and export to your plant library.

this vectorscript will do what you want but I will caution you .. it ain't pretty PROCEDURE Example; FUNCTION text2stake(h :HANDLE) :BOOLEAN;VAR???r, g, b :LONGINT; p1X, p1Y, p2X, p2Y ,p2Z:REAL; NewStake:HANDLE; Objtext:STRING; BEGIN if GetType(h)=10 then begin Objtext:=GetText(h); p2z:=Str2Num(Objtext); GetBBox(h,p1X, p1Y, p2X, p2Y ); NewStake:=CreateCustomObjectN('Stake Object',p2x,p2y,0,False); SetRField(NewStake,'Stake Object','Mode', 'Include as site model data'); SetRField(NewStake,'Stake Object','Style', 'Triangle'); SetRField(NewStake,'Stake Object','Scale Factor', '1'); Move3DObj(NewStake,0,0,p2z); END; END;??? BEGIN??? ForEachObjectInLayer(text2stake, 2, 0, 0); END; RUN(Example);

Actually there is precedent in VW for this type of behavior. In drawing borders if the text in the base symbol for the drawing label has attributes set to by class, you can select the drawing border, and change the fonts from the text menu. It's obscure, annoying the first time one sees it, and probably not great interface design, but it does work.

Ahh.. So what are Finnish and Scandinavian landscape architects used to? Is their some fundamental difference in the process of placing a plant on the drawing? As for the comment about the graphics I can only assume you haven't explored all of the files. Professionalism is an even more difficult concept than normalicy?

Cdavis; Two comments, First, in my installation, changing settings in the plant definition for tag class changes the tag class of all placed instances. Changing the display settings to Quantity-Common name changes the settings of all placed instances. Changing the spacing, or the tag display mode (eg none) only affects those settings for future placements. If you want to change those for objects already placed you select them and do it through the Object Info Pallet. For most work flows that I have seen this makes sense although I can conceive of instances where it would not be preferred. If I double click on a plant definition that resides in another file, using the resource browser. I find myself in the current file with the place plant tool active and ready to place a plant. The settings for the plant I place match exactly the settings I (not NNA) defined that plant to have. If you define a new plant and don't set a value it remains at the default NNA set. I assume that this is because for the thing to work properly it needs a value. If you want that value to be something else then you can define a 'template' plant just like you might define a template file. Reality is you have to start somewhere. At this point I haven't found any document specific preference that affects the place plant tool. All the settings reside in the plant definition. And I definitely don't se a change in the plant definition changing settings. These comments only pertain to the place plant tool in VW 2008. Any version before the release of 2008 may behave differently. What I am saying is that if you do what I suggested it will solve your problem. Petri; FWIW I am a non-US user but other than metric units, don't see how that has any bearing on the matter. Normalicy is a difficult and slippery concept.

This isn't a tool preference. It is imbedded in the plant definition itself which can be moved from one file to the other (like a symbol). The beauty of this is that one could use different tag classes for different plants or not. What is important to make the system work well is to class the plant tags when you define the plant.

What version are you using. You will have to set the tag in plant definition to 'none'. How you do this will vary with the version.. After that the plant will not have a tag when placed. Alternatively, The tag will not display is "On Plant Schedule' is unchecked but it won't appear on a schedule. I do this with existing plants. Set the plant tag in the plant definition to auto class. Then just turn that class visibility off. This allows you to have it both ways.

If you have defined a plant as having a shadow you must turn that shadow on. If the plant object has already been placed select it (or select multiple plant objects). and in the Object Info Pallet check the box named 2D plant rendering. At this point they should display. If not check the settings for the shadow (eg size) to ensure that it will display on screen. I believe that shadow is a page units and not at world units, so use a value like 10 mm or 1/3" and not a value like 3m or 10'.

Have you tried using a viewport for the plant list. Place the worksheet on a new design layer. Create a cropped viewport that shows only this layer it and then rotate the viewport.

Only the bottom-most object in the stacking order looses its class. Anything above that will retain its class. This bottom object is used as the basis of 2d plant rendering.

Check the layer scale and the font size. It is possible if you are working at 1:1 and using say a 12 point font that the text is drawing too small to be seen. I assume the plant are 'On Schedule" and the show tags setting is set appropriately (or you wouldn't have got the leader).