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Yes - If I show you the roof beforehand and accentuate the edge condition by inputting 1000 to beef up the graphic (so to confirm - the double lines are an oversail not a wall construction below), you can see the highlighted model clearly shows the oversail on a gable condition. If you choose roof axis line to control the oversail... (and still using the massive 1000) You can see it works as (I'm assuming) you'd want... Hope thats of use

HTH

Just to finish this one - It can be done though... This is a fascia board added to the same roof And still has the top material oversail as required.

Oh - ok - probably missed that in your posts - sorry

Think I'd agree! Probably better to add your own - and I assume you OP was because of this rather than instead of this.

Hi @Christiaan You can provide an overlap through the roof element OIP Enter a figure in the bound offset box (here I've used 100mm on a multi layer roof) (not the best example roof, but shows layers are individually adjustable) Hope that helps

I know this is now a fairly long thread, but if I can wind it back to image insertion, I find the default size too big now and then when I want to change I still can't agree that a '0' in the resize is helpful start to this process. The user then has to stab at a figure that seems appropriate - usually based upon prior use and therefore experience of this new method - must be quite a problem for first timers. I know you tried to reduce the forum images by applying a min @JimWbut is there (still) a reason to have the zero. If I change to (say) 400 and then want to tweak it I go back to the resize panel and would expect to see a 400 that I can change. No - Its showing zero again. Thinks?? - now what did I choose first off??? Any others share this thought? Positives now - liking the changes overall. Up arrow is good and I confirm works on Mac,iphone and iPad.

Hi @mendezarcediego - this forum gets more and more powerful - I started reading the thread and realised I was back in 2008. However, your problem is more current so.. You have set the line and fill type as class styles. Is this your requirement? I'm not 100% sure what you are after here, but just to change the fill to black and the line to white will maybe provide your solution? Can't think it will be that easy but lets look at it from that direction first! I note your walls are black - is that intentional also? Come back if I've totally misunderstood. If its more complicated a file will usually help.

Looks from, @Nguyen Duc's PDF, that its 2017 Designer has the problem and looks like @Randiis on 2011? Not sure of your 'acquisition route' for VW, but wouldn't you have thought that the authorised distributor/seller would have this 'localisation' issue covered? Given VW isn't a 'box off shelf' purchase, it looks like poor pre-sales support from someone who should have enquired about your needs. (Assuming your PCs meet at least the minimum guided by http://www.vectorworks.net/sysreq?version=2011 or http://www.vectorworks.net/sysreq?version=2017) And - it would be good if VW Inc could perhaps help you by jumping in on this. @JimWcan you offer?

Sorry Taproot - I should have copied you. Hope it works OK for you.

Hi @Shaquel Davis I think the best advice would be always use the latest offering. You may find the release notes help to reassure you on any 'consequences'. http://www.vectorworks.net/downloads/notes/2013SP5_Notes Hopefully, you'll find the release even fixes something that you've been having trouble with.

I had to read this more than once (yes, I'm very s l o w) @JimWI like the cut of your jib! Don't suppose I could interest you in making sense of the Brexit negotiations.

Hi Alan, As you say, conversion to polylines is a useful trick, but the outlines are best used in creating 3d text elements I think. I've used it for signage sometimes. Also, not all fonts will convert - they need to be TrueType or OpenType - which is a pity if your chosen style is not. And yes, it produces in outline only - I'm not sure there's a clever fix for that apart from a laborious breaking down of the shape. (and thats not 'clever') I'm not sure of your final objective, but if you want to present sketches and need an 'informal' text to suit the style I usually choose a font like Bradley Hand and perhaps colour in a grey. Sometimes using the text stretch (or compress) can be effective as well in keeping it as 'hand drawn'. If you want a 'chalky flavour', you could use a coloured text and knock the opacity back (say) 50%. Or are you after a solution where the text 'receives' the same lighting and produces shadows and sketch lines consistent with the rest of the objects in the model? So, rather than basic annotation, it needs to be part of the model? Happy to look at it further if I've not understood correctly.

Hi @egidoroI've just seen this. I like your use of lighting - it's provided some real 'finish' to the scenes.

ahh - yes, but just using the same software as you wouldn't make my output as interesting as yours. Or would it? Maybe I should 'get some of what he's having"

I don't switch the Mac off, so I've gone back to leaving VW running all the time. Simple (rubbish for the planet though. lol.)

Have you updated to SP2? It included a fix for this roof issue

Thanks Kevin - nicely illustrated. Ahh - that's what you wanted @LarryO. Seems I didn't quite understand the original question so I opted for a direct approach. Good you got there.

Enjoy!

Kevin, I've not had any problems with this as a solution for creating 3D elements, especially for planes. But thanks - good to know your own experience. My feeling is your suggestion seems overly complicated for the OP's situation, but I'm certainly not as used to NURBS as you are. In the circumstances I think @LarryOcould just as easily provide 1mm or minimum alternative fraction of an inch and still 'do the job' as required.

(If I understand correctly) Create a rectangle, place a smaller 'cutting' rectangle in position, Modify>Clip Surface, you now have your hole, Extrude to 'zero' ... Your plane with hole can now be placed in the model with zero thickness (when viewed from side) and can be tilted and rotated to suit. (with a base to explain) Iso side (highlighted) careful - you'll lose sight of it if not highlighted!!

Hi - anybody else getting this every time on startup since SP2? Yes - I have set the firewall in preferences and I've even omitted VW2018 and re entered just in case a fix was to show the Mac the SP2 version. Still shows on startup - is this a 'feature' of SP2? Edit - to be clear, Ive set the firewall to Allow

Thanks @Christiaanyou gave me a reason to think this through. I've wanted to have this and from time to time have fudged it. So this time I've looked at it a bit more seriously. I think - someone will correct me maybe - that the structural member or framing tools suffer (suppose drawback is a better phrase) from the way VW creates its arrays from symbols (even if they are 'bespoke'). The only symbols it can use are 2D 'outlines' and they are extruded and set out at the c/cs set in the OPI. Where you (and I) want to provide a little more refined (graphically) solution. First off, I recommend that the ply web type of joists are a good way of getting what you want using a 'standard' manufactured product and still being able to set some of the other options and flexibility available within the OPI including the production of the automatic takeoff etc... The key being that you can create a series of custom symbols from the manufacturer's range - all in outline. There's a reasonable vid on this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNoPJIrJOm0 I think there's no other route than to look at symbols and duplication for what we need. You'll have to do your own take-off unless you add data and provide a linked worksheet. Prob not worth doing as the manufacturers produce all this. As far as the symbol route is concerned I've taken the view that the modular approach looks best. We are only after representation of the joists - not total accuracy. At the design stage we cannot know where the final imposed loads/spans will affect the design and layout that the manufacturer 'spits-out' of their design software. Obviously as professionals we can set out a provisional layout from knowledge and can even go back in later to replace positional joists with accurate ones from the manufacturer's design output. 600 mm seems a good modular approach - most of the Wolf system (there are others!!) has this in typical fashion. Create a symbol to suit - bearing in mind it should be possible to 'squeeze' the height and width (to achieve the correct range they manufacture) and still maintain the top and bottom chords with metal web appearance. I chose to create the 254 depth so that later squeezing and stretching is easier as its from a 'mid range' point. Squeezed to the 195 doesn't really alter it too much - as the piece maintains the required 600mm 'module' and can even be used to create the 222 wide variation satisfactorily Then build your span - duplicate along line or which ever preferred way.. Ends can be treated to a block symbol to tidy the final dimension, much the same as the product would come from the factory. Then you have your fixed span to duplicate at the c/cs for the floor area and can even indicate services if required. Obviously doesn't have the 'extras' that are built into floor creation within VW, but a reasonable solution that will provide indicative sections/detailing and provide some help in MEP planning. Doesn't take long to draw up the small amount of symbol variations that make a layout quick to achieve. They can also be used for walling systems etc. - the world's your lobster (sorry non UK readers!) Hope this might help - or would be pleased to see other options on this theme. @JimWI can't edit this image out now its there. Have you been tinkering again

Nice one @Matt PanzerI tip my hat to you sir. Its all good with this learning. Everyone 's a winner.

Can I suggest you change your signature then. Both @Wes Gardner and myself were guided to provide you with an answer based on your use of '2014 SP4' stated in your sig. As for 2018, I can't replicate your problem. In fact I find clip cube is one of the more reliable VW features. Others might be be able to replicate.