Bruce Kieffer

It is a huge improvement, but as Art says, it does not go far enough. All that's needed is for the rest of the class name to appear when editing the name in the OIP. I found a workaround that is better than nothing. Turn off the Navigation Pallet hierarchical display for Classes, then you can edit the full name. This is only slightly better than using the edit class command.

Thanks Pat. I am aware of that method, but it sure would be nice if I could do it just by grabbing a side handle, hold down a modifier key, and drag it to the size I want relative to the text block center. The OIP method is hit or miss and can take many tries to get it looking like I want. The drag method would be visual, one and done.

A viewport has a center point, but I can't grab it. Please make it so I can.

What keyboard combination or tool can I use to grow or shrink the width of a text block relative to its center?

This is a problem for me again after so many years. I will try quitting Safari next time, but it looks like @Ari Phillips is having this problem now too. Computer restart is needed. OK, but doing so takes about 5 minutes, and two of those are to boot Vectorworks. Sad.

It's great that we can edit class names directly in the OIP in 2020, but this falls apart if I duplicate a class that is already in a hierarchal structure. This screen shot shows what happens when I need to add another screw class titled Screws-Casters. I duplicated the Screws-Back class, but doing that then creates another nested class named Screws-Back-2 and I cannot edit that in the OIP to get what I need which is Screw-Casters. The easy fix should be to show all of the class name when editing a class name in the OIP.

Thanks for all the input everyone. @Boh The cabinets I design are custom. Rarely is a component from one design used in another design. Of course there are similarities. I do title them so I know what they are in the RM. This still leaves us with... there is no reason for Vectorworks to not show the dimensions in the OIP, and showing them there would help me.

Hey folks. If you want this too, then you should upvote it. Use the arrow at the top left.

Andy, I did try that before I posted today. I call it a lot of work workaround. Not something I plan to do. I could attach a record too, not going to do that either. My point is Vectorworks has the info, there's no good reason that it does not appear in the OIP.

I design furniture and cabinets. More and more I'm creating a common piece like a cabinet door and making that a symbol. Please add object dimensions to symbols. Obviously space in the OIP is not an issue. My screen shot shows my cabinet door symbol, but what size is that door? Vectorworks knows the size, so please put it there in the OIP so I can see it.

Sadly, this does not work with older converted files, and I have a lot of those files with fillets. The object in the converted file needs to be completely rebuilt to make history mode edit with fillets work.

I worked on this more. Creating complex object like the door rails is far too complicated to get the dimensions to appear in the correct order of T x W x L. The orientation changes when objects are subtracted and added to each other. Way too hard to keep track of. I give up!

I created a simple version of my drawing with only the doors and attached it here. Worksheet Cut List for Doors.vwx

Here's the redo: I'm seeing how this works by creating a 2D object, recalculating the worksheet to confirm the width and height are in the worksheet as shown in the OIP, and then extruding the object. Keep in mind that pieces of wood are oriented based on grain direction. Width is across the grain, length is with the grain, and thickness is almost always the smallest dimension. In the worksheet, the Height function is the object's Length, the Width function is the object's Width, and the Length Function is the object's Thickness (which is the extruded dimension). More work to do to get this right, but at least it makes more sense to me now. Now I can see that the panels are all appear correctly in the worksheet, and that means that I would need to create the stiles and rails differently to get them to appear correctly in the worksheet.

Thanks Boh. Interesting idea, but more work than it's worth for me, especially when I need to create a complex object like a door rail. I did some more experimenting and I see I name the column headers based on what the worksheet results, but the header names are not the actual function, IE Thickness is really the Width Function. So playing with this more I realize the headers have to be named the same as the function, and objects created have to be made so prior to extrusion the OIP shows me the correct height and width of the object. It appears to be just a matter of learning the correct sequence of steps to create an object to get it to list correctly in the worksheet. I'm going to revise the worksheet now and post another screenshot...