Mi&D Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Hi Does anybody know I can create a roof face with incline in both directions (X and Y)? Thanks for help. Mi&D Quote Link to comment
0 Tom W. Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 You should use a Slab instead Quote Link to comment
0 Hans-Olav Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 if you rotate the line that defines the slope you can get the roof to slope in both directions You need to calculate to get the right angle 2 Quote Link to comment
0 Mi&D Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 17 hours ago, Tom W. said: You should use a Slab instead Thanks for your suggestion. The problem is : I have one face with 65°. Slab isn't possible with such incline... Quote Link to comment
0 Mi&D Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 16 hours ago, Hans-Olav said: if you rotate the line that defines the slope you can get the roof to slope in both directions You need to calculate to get the right angle Hi Hans-Olav. Thanks for reply. It's not possible to rotate a roof face in 3d > see attachment. It says "Hybrid objects can only be rotated around z-axis. I've tried to rotate a simple rectangle in x and y, and then make a roof face out of it. Even that is not possible... It's quite disappointing, that such an advanced software can't solve such a common task... Quote Link to comment
0 Hans-Olav Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Its the line that you draw when defining the roof that you should rotate not the roof itself Quote Link to comment
0 line-weight Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Roof face needs to look something like this in plan 2 Quote Link to comment
0 Mi&D Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) ok. I think I got it. Thanks. this works. unfortunately, a roof face like this doesn't properly work in offset with another roof face. 🤪 It's quite a lot of effort to build something as common as a trapezoidal dormer, don't you agree? Edited July 1, 2021 by Mi&D Quote Link to comment
0 Hans-Olav Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Hi @Mi&D Yo can use the connect / combine tool to combine several roof faces and their shape is automatically adjusted Skjermopptak 2021-07-01 kl. 09.59.28.mov 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Mi&D Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 Thanks for your help, @Hans-Olav Please, could you try joining the 2 roof faces in the document attached. I can't seem to get there... They should make up a trapezoidal dormer in the end. Roof faces.vwx Quote Link to comment
0 Mi&D Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 I'm trying hard to get it right. In the document attached I have 2 examples: 1) 2 roof faces which I got from a roof, that I've changed into faces. 2) 2 roof faces built from scratch. It's strange to me: When I try to edit roof style, the ones built from scratch and aren't possible to offset, do not show "edit roof style" when I right click on them. While the other 2 do. (They have been extracted from a former roof.) Can it be that there is a different behavior when roof faces are "exploded" roofs? Roof faces 2.vwx Quote Link to comment
0 line-weight Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Mi&D said: Thanks for your help, @Hans-Olav Please, could you try joining the 2 roof faces in the document attached. I can't seem to get there... They should make up a trapezoidal dormer in the end. Roof faces.vwx 582.5 kB · 3 downloads I have not tried for very long, but I could not get them to join properly. My experience with roof faces is that they have quite a lot of bugs and sometimes connections work properly, sometimes they don't. I mostly only use them for quite simple roofs. For something like the dormer you are building, it's likely that I'd end up building it manually from solids. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Hans-Olav Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I couldn't get it to work either. I guess the best option is to model it as solids like @line-weight suggest. If you need the solids to display proper in 2d view you could make them into AotuHybrid. https://app-help.vectorworks.net/2021/eng/index.htm#t=VW2021_Guide%2FShapes3%2FCreating_auto_hybrid_objects.htm%23CSH_14 Quote Link to comment
0 Tom W. Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 As per the other thread I sent you a link to @Mi&D the issues regarding joining roof faces is a known bug: Quote Link to comment
0 line-weight Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 It's a right pain, because drawing a multilayer roof buildup in the kind of configuration the OP wants is really tedious to do manually, and the roof face tool, if it actually worked, would make it loads quicker, and loads easier to edit subsequently. But in industry-leading, BIM-ready Vectorworks, a functional roof face tool is just a bit too much to ask. Quote Link to comment
0 Mi&D Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 Thanks for your suggestions. I'll follow them. That's what I've found out: Intersection between roofs, when one of them has incline in 2 directions doesn't work. (example 1° and 5°). Quote Link to comment
0 line-weight Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) I think that what you mean is when the inclines are non-parallel in plan - an incline can always be expressed as a fall in one direction - but sometimes non-parallel inclines will connect fine and sometimes they won't, in my experience. Edited July 1, 2021 by line-weight Quote Link to comment
0 Mi&D Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) ok, thanks for the specification. I'll have a closer look at that point, too. In the end, this has been the problem of the dormer. The next question is, how to solve the joints between dormer and main roof...? Let's see... Edited July 1, 2021 by Mi&D Quote Link to comment
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Does anybody know I can create a roof face with incline in both directions (X and Y)?
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