Popular Post Art V Posted September 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Apparently ODA (Open Design Aliance) that also programs the Teigha libraries used for read/write of DWG and DGN files has now libraries that can read/write Revit files (RFA and RVT) according to this blog about the ODA conference. http://www.worldcadaccess.com/blog/2016/09/open-design-alliance-opens-up-the-revit-file-format.html Is there as chance that Vectorworks will implement this into e.g. VW Architect? Though Autodesk is promoting the use of Revit for Civil Engineering design as well, so it would make sense in that case to also implement it in VW Landmark to keep up with the competition. Edited September 13, 2016 by Art V 7 Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 +1 This could be extremely useful, since almost all product manufacturers who provide 'BIM' models usually only provide Revit families. I'm almost certain that Autodesk will sue to stop this, just like they tried for years to stop OpenDWG. [Since this forum doesn't allow to vote up this topic I used the old +1] Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted September 13, 2016 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 13, 2016 Feel free to hit the Reputation button as well for this sort of thing for +1s too, I am able to track it on the backend just as easily as the voting system in the Troubleshooting and Wishlist threads. 1 Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Ok, so I produce some additional traffic here, beside pushing the love button, to support this thread. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted September 13, 2016 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 13, 2016 I may officially call it the Love Button. Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Move this to Wishlist. I have wished for this for a while now. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted September 13, 2016 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 13, 2016 Woops, thought I had! Moved. Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Thanks for the support for Revit import as well as moving it to the wish list, that saves me from creating a wish list item. Even though I'm not really using BIM at the moment I can see the potential benefits for being able to directly exchange files with Revit as there seems to be a push to incorporate BIM technologies outside architecure (e.g. for civil constructions/infrastructure objects) so it is only a matter of time for this to become an issue for non-architects as well. I'd rather use Vectorworks than Revit just like I prefer VW over AutoCAD for some of the work. If I understood it correctly the current version of the ODA API for Revit files is for converting it to DWG files, so I'm not sure how much of an issue this would be for Vectorworks as it may mean importing/exporting DWG files before conversion from/to Revit. Vectorworks could do this internally during the import/export of Revit files but it may put some constraints on objects that can be used. It would also require improving some DWG compatibility as well, which is always welcome. Jim, do you have any idea what the issues could be when trying to implement this Revit import/export option as it is now? Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Vw2017 now allows you to import Revit files directly: Quote Architects and landscape professionals must be prepared to exchange data with other BIM collaborators. In Vectorworks software, you can now import Revit files directly, allowing you to take advantage of manufacturer-specic objects that are available as Revit families to enhance a Vectorworks library or to collaborate more effectively with other designers and contractors throughout the lifecycle of your project. 1 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted September 13, 2016 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 13, 2016 You have no idea how badly I wanted to answer this question. Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Maybe that's why you were hesitant to move it to the 'Wish List' forum! Wish Granted! (Sorry that I stole your thunder JimW) 1 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted September 13, 2016 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 13, 2016 Steal away! I can discuss features once users do. Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, JimW said: Steal away! I can discuss features once users do. Great, the first thing I'm going to check after installing VW2017 is if it has DGN import or not. Have a nice evening, take your rest as you'll need it for the next few days ahead I guess. Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 34 minutes ago, rDesign said: Vw2017 now allows you to import Revit files directly: Unfortunately no export to Revit yet, maybe this will follow in a service pack once the ODA has further updated their Revit API/Libraries. Though being able to import Revit files is a very welcome improvement, so it''s still a glass half full. Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I read in that ODA announcement that they were currently only able to Import Revit files. Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If we import Revit files - let them import VW files! Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 minute ago, rDesign said: I read in that ODA announcement that they were currently only able to Import Revit files. Thanks for clarifying, I only did a quick read so apparently missed that tidbit as there was talk about writing Revit files as well. Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tom Klaber said: If we import Revit files - let them import VW files! Ha! I think their response would be, why on earth would we want to import Vectorworks files?!? Edited September 13, 2016 by rDesign 1 Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, rDesign said: I think Revit's response Ha! I think their response would be, why on earth would we want to import Vectorworks files?!? Because my sheeet is the bomb- diggity and you need my design genius to finish the project - so get on board. Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, Art V said: Thanks for clarifying, I only did a quick read so apparently missed that tidbit as there was talk about writing Revit files as well. From that announcement: Quote Q: Do you expect 100% write compatibility with Revit? A: It reads all geometry and other data, rendering is not 100%. The writing function is still be implemented, as is the ability to save in earlier releases. The RVT format is quite complex, and so there is no byte-by-byte write interface. But customers can write their model data Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 minute ago, rDesign said: But customers can write their model data And this part did put me on the wrong foot as it somehow caused me to think it could write Revit data in some way Oh well, at least we know writing Revit files is on the horizon. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted September 14, 2016 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yes, from what I understand, we currently allow all the capability that the ODA libraries allow (at least, as of the time when we feature froze 2017s development) and as they increase we will try to implement them as quickly as possible. Quote Link to comment
Genevieve Raynauld Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 On 9/13/2016 at 11:38 AM, JimW said: Feel free to hit the Reputation button as well for this sort of thing for +1s too, I am able to track it on the backend just as easily as the voting system in the Troubleshooting and Wishlist threads. Where is the Reputation button? sorry I'am new Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted May 3, 2017 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted May 3, 2017 Just now, Genevieve Raynauld said: Where is the Reputation button? sorry I'am new For this thread, the feature was already included in 2017, so no more votes are needed. In the top left of Wishlist and Troubleshooting threads, there is the Vote widget to add your voice to requests for new features or fixes for old ones. In threads that do not have the widget at the top left, where it's more of a general discussion topic, the Reputation button is at the bottom right of a post, with little red and gree up and down arrows, but those have evolved more into agreement with the author of the post separate from agreement with the feature being implemented. It's a new system, so people are still settling into its use, but I am able to track all the highest Voted as well as Reputed items for our records here. 1 Quote Link to comment
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