Christiaan Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 What are the chances of automated window schedule elevations in v2013 do you think? I have 150 windows I need to draw. Either I do them manually (or with WinDoor's semi-automated tool) or delay issuing it in the hope that I'll be able to do it with the click of a button in v2013 in a few weeks time. Wishful thinking? Quote Link to comment
Kizza Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Somehow I think that there are more important improvements and fixes that need attention.... Would be a very, very nice feature though. I don't think even Revit can do a pictorial window schedule. Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 We'll probably get a bunch of cool new features but will still be missing the ones we sorely need at the moment........ Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I don't think even Revit can do a pictorial window schedule. It actually can......called detail legends...... Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 We'll probably get a bunch of cool new features but will still be missing the ones we sorely need at the moment........ I've found over the years that a major VW release placates me for some time until I begin running into missing features, bugs and roadblocks again. Each year this period seems to get shorter and shorter. Quote Link to comment
Kizza Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I was actually referring to an automatic window elevation schedule whereby the width, height, manufacturer's data, hardware, glazing etc data can be read from the window object and placed into the schedule. And is fully customisable. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 You can actually do pictorial elevations in VW by creating a cropped viewport elevation of each window. This has its own set of problems however and takes about the same amount of time to draw them in 2D. Quote Link to comment
Kizza Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Yes I'm aware of that but I think the workflow you are referring to as the OP is something like: 1) Create window symbol 2) Add data to symbol 3) Generate schedule 4) Choose the criteria you would like shown in the schedule 5) Click OK A pictorial window schedule is generated, with included dimensions and chosen data. Done. After all, this is a wish list isn't it? Quote Link to comment
Dieter @ DWorks Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) I've found over the years that a major VW release placates me for some time until I begin running into missing features, bugs and roadblocks again. Each year this period seems to get shorter and shorter. Same here... And each time I get less and less excited. Edited September 4, 2012 by DWorks Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 1) Create window symbol 2) Add data to symbol 3) Generate schedule 4) Choose the criteria you would like shown in the schedule 5) Click OK A pictorial window schedule is generated, with included dimensions and chosen data. In a nutshell! A pictorial window schedule is generated, with included dimensions and chosen data. + choices for elevation (inside/outside) + choices for level of detail(plan) etc + overrides for line-weights Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Each year this period seems to get shorter and shorter. Because BIM workflows are very unforgiving (and demanding).......not something NVs seems to have been aware of when they entered the game. Edited September 4, 2012 by Vincent C Quote Link to comment
barkeatr Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 when is 2013 coming out? Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 18th. Quote Link to comment
Kizza Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 + choices for elevation (inside/outside) + choices for level of detail(plan) etc + overrides for line-weights Don't make it too hard for the boys at NV - we'll never get it otherwise :grin: Quote Link to comment
jnr Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 looks like you're in luck, bro'. check out the new features today. whether any of it works and is stable, however is always the question with a spankin' new release as you well know. I have to use it because I'm working with a rhino model and desperately need the new translation. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Yeah it got my hopes up but unfortunately it seems they're only bitmaps so no way to dimension them. Thus essentially useless for window schedules. Quote Link to comment
jnr Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The demo I watched was rendering in hidden frame which I would think you could work from. I always work the other direction with the window supplier, providing them a NNA window schedule which does not appear on the document set that they then generate a pdf with specs that I then add to the doc set. I usually only add the pdfs at the end when sizes have settled down so that I don't get caught up in revisions. Keeps me out of the game of making a mistake with a manufacturer's rough opening. They provide it. Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Yeah it got my hopes up but unfortunately it seems they're only bitmaps so no way to dimension them. Thus essentially useless for window schedules. You could dimension them, however they would be dead dimensions (with or without snaps) however what gets me more is if they are bitmap then dwg export is a no go....... Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) Tried it. They're bitmaps and highly impractical to dimension. Edited September 19, 2012 by Christiaan Quote Link to comment
Alan H Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Tried it. They're bitmaps and high impractical to dimension. What a waste of time.... so it is useless for making window schedules then! Quote Link to comment
Dieter @ DWorks Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Tried it. They're bitmaps and high impractical to dimension. What a waste of time.... so it is useless for making window schedules then! yes, but great for legends, altough there are better options for that too, .... Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Half baked, the NVs way..... Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 To be fair to NV they're not marketing it as some big new window scheduling feature. (not like the debacle that is the wall sculpting tool that can't even extend to the corner of walls). But they would have been better off leaving the window example out of their marketing material altogether. Argh, it's just so close!! Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Argh, it's just so close!! Close enough? Or will this lead to a change of software? I really got to sit down and think about this the coming months...... Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Close enough? Or will this lead to a change of software? I really got to sit down and think about this the coming months...... We're about to sign an NDA with Autodesk to see if we can get any hint of whether they're going to produce a native OS X version of Revit. Then we'll see. The problem with v2013 is the very thing they're marketing it as, an evolution. Evolution is fine if you already produce the best in class of something (like Apple's iPhone), but when you're falling further behind your competitors? As I said to Chris, they're heading in the right direction, just not nearly fast enough. * * in saying that, why do we have decorative-only window shutters but not vector-based window schedule elevations? Quote Link to comment
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