2D Symbols Disappear after Ungrouping a Landscape Area

[jmccain8]

Hi Everyone,

 

Using Vectorworks Landmark 2022 (2D planting plan), Windows 10 Pro 

 

I used to be able to ungroup Landscape Areas in order to shift some of the symbols around for a more fine-tuned 2D planting plan. When I've tried this recently, the plant symbols disappear, and I am only left with a grid of bird's-foot-like marks. 

 

I've attached a small sample of a Landscape Area and one of the same area after it has been ungrouped. This has been happening for the past couple of months and on several different drawings.

 

Any ideas as to why this is happening and if there is something I can do to get it to work again?

 

Thanks for your help,

James

[jmccain8]

Anyone else experience this problem with ungrouping a defined Landscape Area with the 2d plant symbols being converted to a grid of bird's-feet symbols? I used to be able to ungroup and then shift symbols around a bit.

 

 

[Jeff Prince]

23 minutes ago, jmccain8 said:

Anyone else experience this problem with ungrouping a defined Landscape Area with the 2d plant symbols being converted to a grid of bird's-feet symbols?

 

No.

[jmccain8]

Any idea where I can turn or steps I can take to troubleshoot the problem? This is clearly a bug, at least with my particular installation of Vectorworks 2022.

[Pat Stanford]

Those "birds feet" are 3D Locus points. Those would be the place holder for your symbols.

 

What type of object does it tell you they are when you select one of them? Does it say it is a symbol or a locus?

[jmccain8]

Hi Pat,

 

When selected, it is a locus. After selecting the Landscape Area, I selected 'Yes' to 'Are you sure you want to ungroup high-level objects?'. When I go to select the ungrouped Landscape Area which has been converted to Group with the grid of bird's-feet. When I Ungroup this Group, the area is converted to 317 3D Loci.

 

Any ideas?

Thanks!

 

 

[Pat Stanford]

Are you in Top/Plan when you do the Ungroup? Or just Top?

 

My guess is that your plant symbols do not have a 3D portion and a 3D Locus is being substituted, but I have not been able to duplicate.

 

Can copy copy and paste that landscape area in to a new file and post is or DM it to me so we can take a look?

[Jeff Prince]

On 1/17/2023 at 8:11 AM, jmccain8 said:

Using Vectorworks Landmark 2022

 

I just tried replicating this behavior on 2022 SP5 & SP6 on Mac OS...

...and experienced the same results as you.

 

FYI - This does not happen on 2023 or 2021.

I skipped 2022 for mysteries just like this one 🙂

Edited January 25, 2023 by jeff prince

[jmccain8]

Unfortunately I am stuck with 2022 for awhile. I upgraded just for this plant-defined landscape area tool, which used to work wonderfully whenever I wanted to ungroup and tweak placement a bit. Ironic that this no longer works! 

 

I'll report the bug and hope it gets prioritized, as there are other threads with users wishing for more flexibility in tweaking placement after using this tool to rapidly fill in large planting areas.

 

Thank you very much for your time, Jeff!

James

 

[Nico_be]

I can confirm that it is impossible to keep plants when unbundling a planted area.
I have already reported this bug for a few years without any change.
It is unbelievable!

[jmccain8]

@Nico_beThank you. I was able to do this before, though when the landscape areas are ungrouped, the 2D symbols were no longer functional plants, but at least they looked the same and I could move them around on the plan.