USE APPLICATION WINDOW command?

[Marcelo Barujel]

Why did you eliminate the USE APPLICATION WINDOW command?  Please put it back ASAP

[michaelk]

I wonder if it was an oversight.

 

From 2024 Help:

 

 

Are you trying to disable palette docking?

[Marissa Farrell]

I'm asking about this now, and I'll let you know if I get an answer 🙂
It used to be part of the "Application Window Docking Options" menu chunk, so there was no deliberate removal within the workspaces. Just unsure if this was purposely done or not.

[Marissa Farrell]

It appears this was a deliberate change. Here's some information I got from the engineer that worked on the task.

"The new View Bar and Mode Bar only exist on the application window so turning the "Use Application Window" setting OFF didn't have much sense anymore. You can still undock documents after you've opened them and you can have undocked/floating palettes placed wherever you want on the screen."

 

I've spoken with the Technical Publications team and they'll be updating the help to prevent user confusion.

Thanks for bringing this up, @Marcelo Barujel

[JoarL]

IMHO there are some other issues related to how the application window is handled on Mac:

 

With the red close button greyed out there is no way to fully hide the program without clicking cmd+H, and you are always left with the useless blank application window after closing the last document. After clicking back and forth between VW and Finder, with no document open, you are also just left with a stupid empty window.

 

IMHO the way this is done in Photoshop, where the start page comes up after closing the last document makes more sense.

 

Speaking of the start page: Wouldn't it make sense to allow changing VW preferences from this window?

 

 

[Pat Stanford]

There is an option in VW Preferences to open the Home Screen when the last document it closed.  It is on my default, so you turned it off at some point.

 

[JoarL]

I have this option on, it only hides the blank window.

[gplumb]

On 9/18/2023 at 7:19 PM, Marcelo Barujel said:

Why did you eliminate the USE APPLICATION WINDOW command?  Please put it back ASAP

i totally agree. the application window gets in the way of working across progams.

 

regarding the comment "The new View Bar and Mode Bar only exist on the application window so turning the "Use Application Window" setting OFF didn't have much sense anymore." it made sense in all previous versions of vectorworks. and works very well, simply copy what was done before.