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Christiaan, What's your definition of "open formats"? V-G.

It does, but because the [already] referenced viewport in the second file is assigned to a single class, you lose the ability to control its "component" class visibility in the third file (and beyond). This is IMO a shortcoming as a progressive referencing scheme would cut down on the total number of references across a project set. V-G.

But Erich does have a point with regards to 3D PDF (look at the link he provided). Imagine a building (or whatever) model that the viewer could control rendering style, layer (class) visibility, as well as the standard rotational/zoom controls. All within Acrobat. Hmmmmmmmm..... V-G

Erich you are not following. VW makes QuickTime VR's, which can be played in the FREE QuickTime Player. That said, the functionality of 3D PDF seems to go somewhat beyond what QTVR has to offer (at least in its current incarnation). V-G

Don't blindly make the assumption that NNA knew about the problem. For those who aren't aware, Apple is FAMOUS for making last minute changes to their OS leading up to the public release, often leaving developers in the lurch. The problems that have arisen with VW12 and Leopard may have simply been unavoidable. NNA has a proven history of doing the right thing with respect to solving these issues. V-G.

Don't make the assumption that NNA knew about the problem. For those who aren't aware, Apple is FAMOUS for making last minute changes to their OS leading up to the public release, often leaving developers in the lurch. The problems that have arisen with VW12 and Leopard may have simply been unavoidable. NNA has a proven history of doing the right thing with respect to solving these issues. V-G.

Hey Hugo, Here's little script I dreamed up to place a text object along an arc. The text value is the arc's length. Hope it helps. V-G {--------------------------------------------------------} Procedure arccalc; {?2007 VectorGeek Corporation} {places text string(s) stating arc length on selected arc object(s)} VAR Radius,ArcLength,startAngleR,arcAngleR,CenterX,CenterY,PrimaryAngle : REAL; Procedure arcer(h : HANDLE); BEGIN GetArc(h,startAngleR,arcAngleR); ArcLength := HPerim(h); Radius := ArcLength/Deg2Rad(arcAngleR); HCenter(h,CenterX,CenterY); PrimaryAngle := (startAngleR+(arcAngleR/2)); IF PrimaryAngle > 360 THEN PrimaryAngle := PrimaryAngle-360; TextSpace(2); TextJust(2); IF (PrimaryAngle>=0) AND (PrimaryAngle<=180) THEN TextRotate(startAngleR+(arcAngleR/2)-90) ELSE TextRotate(startAngleR+(arcAngleR/2)+90); MoveTo(CenterX,CenterY); AngleVar; Move(Radius,#PrimaryAngle); NoAngleVar; BeginText; Concat('L= ',Num2Str(3,ArcLength)) EndText; SetFPat(LNewObj,0); END; BEGIN ForEachObject(arcer,(((T=ARC) & (SEL=TRUE)))); END; Run(arccalc); {--------------------------------------------------------}

Katie, can you please wish-list this? Thx. V-G.

I agree with mike m and Peter here. In our part of the world, the architect (or prime consultant) is responsible for dimensioning the structure. The engineer is responsible for the structural design (i.e. concrete, steel, and wood-frame sizing reinforcing etc.). Ultimately, I would NOT want our consultants to dimension anything anyways as we are responsible for the overall coordination, not them. We even go to the point of providing contractors with slab plans that show all spot elevations, openings, embeds, curbs, etc. These have to be closely coordinated with the architectural detail package to ensure that everything works in concert. May be different in the UK though... V-G (now a 'journeyman' on the tech board - :-0)

Or is it the "Ceiling-Main" class...??? V-G

Am I missing something or is it not possible to use the "function" keys for menu keyboard shortcuts? If not, why not? V-G. --------------------------------------- VW 13.0.0 (78970), WinXP Pro [sP2] Dell Dimension DXP051 (Pentium D, 3GHz) 2GB RAM, NVidia GeForce 7300LE 1974 Ford Pinto (Green) ---------------------------------------

Not sure how Ion had it working in 12. After trying his code, I get the same behavior as in 2008 (i.e. NOT working). AFAIK, there is no way to have a script call a script after executing. We may be stuck folks. V-G.

Sing-along everybody....... island-mon what you wantin' wit da vector world? vec-tor geek want to take you from this digital-world he want to ween you from the locus tool he want to take you but you're being a fool island-mon, island-mon, island-mon, ooo-ooh, tell me what you wantin' with da vector world? {with apologies to Sir Elton John, and the inimitable Kiki Dee.} VectorGeek -------------------------------------------------- Mac Plus, 1MB RAM, 10MB HD, System 1.2 Currently playing a marathon game of "Dark Castle"

I think the problem is that the ResetObject() procedure doesn't register until after the script completes its execution. So essentially, the PrintUsingPrintDialog function is printing before the data stamp is updated. It may not be fixable - but I too will try. Funny how it worked in VW12. NNA, can you shed some light on this? VG

Fair enough. I just see users who work in only VW adopting conventions (like underscores as spaces) that have no rational requirement. It's like naming a layer "A_FURN" instead of "Architectural Furniture". Now back to my COBOL manual..... Vector_Geek.

Hi Pat, How about spaces for spaces? V-G.

Nice job Ion. That's the nice thing about ForEachObject(). It politely does its job, and ignores things when they don't exist. V-G

I can't name a specific instance as my mind is mush today, but I swear there have been times in scripting where a unique naming structure has been an advantage. Maybe my esteemed colleague Petri can weigh in....

Darryl and my other brother Darryl disagree. Larry.

I have to agree with Petri here (OMG did I actually say that?). The purity of unique naming is helpful for reasons beyond CAD Standards, namely VS. V-G, who is now smitten with Petri.

I agree with Christiaan here. We do this all the time and the capability has been lost in 2008. I can see how it happened - in the desire to add classable wall components, I believe the hidden capability in VW12 was lost. I'd vote for bringing it back. Adding multiple classes to achieve what was previously possible with a single class is not the best solution IMO. V-G.

Not sure how the prefs are stored on VW12/OSX (i.e.: user or workstation based), but maybe could you create separate logins for "single monitor" and "dual-monitor" use? Certainly would work with VW2008 as I believe the prefs etc. are user-based. V-G.

Sounds like a job for VW2008. With the new design layer viewports AND rotatable plan view, this would be a breeze. V-G.

Richard, There is inconsistency, but that's the par for the course in the software business. For example, Microsoft and Adobe products etc. vary in their use of the Control key. Sometimes (but not always), control-clicking will add to the selection. Sometimes (but not always), control-dragging creates a duplicate (in some programs that feature is tied to the Alt key instead). The difference with VectorWorks is that control-clicking creates the duplicate whereas in other programs, the dragging motion creates the duplicate. This is unique behaviour from what I can see, so I understand the frustration. The bad news is that there's no way to disable it. You just need to be conscious of the outcome. HTH, V-G

Sweet! - or I wait until the maintenance release and do nuttin... Thanks Pat. V-G-E-E-K