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Hi Justin; thanks for the link. sadly, it brought up many more questions than answers on my part. are there any other videos regarding spotlight symbol construction? maybe they'll answer my numerous questions?

Hi Justin; Could you provide a link or two to the videos you speak of? i just tried [yet again] to plow through the Vectorworks University web site [https://university.vectorworks.net/]. and i find it pretty confusing. Presumably the "Industry" is Entertainment, but the videos you refer to - are they part of "skills", "webinars", "workflows", "classes", or what? i'd be thrilled to take a look, i'll wager many of my techniques are way out of date? Let me know specific links or courses i could review? thanks in advance, Steve

Hi folks; I can take no credit for these symbols. I don't believe i've seen them before. that said, any text included in any of my symbols have no "fill," so the text doesn't obscure the symbol outline, like these two samples.

I cannot take credit for these symbols. that said, i think the line weight needs help and there are too many details. so what do i know.

Thanks, Mark. Sounds like this could easily be the next webinar!

Hi Mark; i just reread your note, and i remember your excellent webinar. but i don't remember how you attached all your rigging hardware apart from clamps as "point loads." what is a point load? how do i select a piece of rigging hardware and assign it to a "point load" category? thanks in advance, Steve

I certainly feel your frustration, but regardless of your emotional state, YES! Don't merely start a list of the unsatisfactory issues, submit them! every one of them! and make each issue separate, so that it can acquire it's own votes or responses. As applications develop and get larger and acquire more tools, there are potentially more trap doors. and like every project overseen by management that doesn't really know how the product is used, or has the intuitive understanding of an end user, the *only* way that an issue gains traction is to be listed in this forum AND in Jira, get responses or reinforcement, and then gains enough support to get fixed.

Hi DCLD: I cannot speak for the Nemetschek Lustr series 3 symbols, but after reviewing my notes, i can make a couple of observations: 1) years ago when i started making SoftSymbols, I decided to create both 2D and 3D components that reflected the true overall size of each lighting fixture. that said, i also decided to make each symbol with the lens barrel retracted to as *small* an overall length as possible. my thought was: "drawing a symbol as frontlight, even if the barrel is all the way out, it will still be on a sectional diagonal, and the front of the lens will not stick out much further than as drawn. drawing a symbol as sidelight, even if the barrel is all the way out, it will still be on a 3D front view diagonal; same thing. if you draw the 2D with barrel extended, you run the risk of reducing the amount of available room to fit in all the light devices without overlapping between symbols and potentially obscuring information either the lens or in the butt of the unit." in my ETC S3-LED Lustr symbols [for example,] the 2D and 3D components are drawn with the barrel "retracted." 2) The overall length of each fixture in the Lustr S3 series varies by beam spread. while i try to make all the symbols accurate size, there's also the question of being able to recognize similar unit type, and sometimes that unit type is overall length. in fact, the only two fixtures that are matching overall sizes to one another is the 26° and the 36°, and the 50° and the 70°. worst case, i also include a second set of symbols that contain a beam spread number in the nose [instead of a slash or line] to help identify the beam spread. 3) There are a jillion symbols for a lot of lighting manufacturers. If there's a symbol that you *must* have, please remember that the amount of hands available for this kind of request is very finite. rather than wait for someone to update the symbols of your choice it'll be quicker to edit and alter the symbol's size to your satisfaction on your own. just my $.02. Good luck!

can you be more precise? like a specific fixture or range? strand was a prety prolific manufacturer.

I don't know the source of your symbols, Cristiano, but it appears that the 3D origin is in the middle of the fixture, rather than at the top of the yoke? For that reason, your side view at the top of your post shows the center of the fixture resting on top of the truss, rather than the yoke? if you have access to the vectorworks lighting instrument libraries, it might be useful to compare this specific resource's origin and 3D loci points to a typical vectorworks resource, and see if their general locations match? good luck, Steve

Hi Taylor E: i'm not getting it. you're trying to "focus" chairs or custom symbols in an orchestra. right? so is your desire to be able to have a "focus point' for a chair? and that way, bypass the need to individually rotate chair symbols? is that another way to describe your objective?

mark doubleday created a video regarding this, as i recall? i labored this topic for some days, but that was back in vw2022.

wow. it would appear that this might be an illustration of several slightly different palettes and options that might be improved with a combination into a single palette?

Hi LizC: i poked around your Vw2022 document in both Vw2022 and Vw2023. As far as i could tell, none of your light devices had two beam degree fields filled in, only one. you also had at least eight Light Info Records, instead of one. I opened the document in vw2023. and i duplicated your sequence. and i matched your results; click on 1E-11 and assign to focus G. click on 1E-14 and assign to focus H. select 1E-11. it now says it is assigned to focus H. my results match yours.

Absolutely agreed. I'll also admit i've never tried to hang lighting devices on all four chords and then convert that into Vision. i would be thrilled to see anyone who could successfully achieve pulling that rabbit out of the hat.