Mark Aceto

I’m going to start a new thread about these curved wall seams…

Great suggestions! Mixed results with wall recesses… I would have to make the seams larger than I want to be visible in OpenGL (unless I really pumped up the DPI). The blue and red arcs are the guides I created to measure 5’ along the curved wall to determine where the seams will be. However, I’m more concerned with Hidden Line as that’s what will be in the drawing set. How do I hide the lines where the round walls join, so only the wall recesses show?

For clarification, using the reshape tool in add vertex mode worked to add the straight line to the polyline. Joining or composing a straight line with a polyline will not work. Trying to convert a joined/composed polyline to NURBS or polygon will not work.

My memory is bad. It worked before because I reshaped / added a straight line to the polyline. EAP doesn’t like joining or composing the two lines to create a polyline. BTW @Pat Stanford I could hear your voice steering me away from the rocks on this one. As much as I’d like to give my client their seams every 5’ along the curved walls, I decided to let VW do what VW does best (wall styles), and take the extruded path of least resistance.

Simplest thing in the world… no longer working. Issue seems to be related to composing a straight line with a polyline to created a new polyline (but it worked fine before this). Quit and restarted VW. Going to try dumping caches and restarting computer next. File attached.

This project has come full circle: I now have a subscription to Cinema, and am exporting the client’s scenic designs from Cinema into a VW shuttle file. I read that 3DS was recommended but not all of the objects were making it into the the 3DS file. I’m currently testing OBJ which seems to work better. Many thanks again to everyone in this thread. It’s even more helpful now that I’m using Cinema (even at this very basic newbie level).

@P Retondo I was realizing that as I thought through the conversation here… Think I’m gonna have to wait until we’re face to face mask to mask again to provide that tech support.

@Pat Stanford and @P Retondo thanks so much! Question: after following both of these steps, would it be possible for me to export a custom Fundaments workspace from my copy of VW that they could import? When we did a screen share, it looked like theirs was all out of wack. No access to Layers in the Nav palette (even from the Menu bar)… I would love to customize it for them by turning on layer scale etc. I’m also afraid this is headed towards a user folder dump, and I’m really trying to sell them on VW without frustrating them with too much tech support. They’re coming from SketchUp and Cinema.

I’m working with a client who has a Fundamentals license. I have a Designer license. When I go to my Fundamentals workspace, are the same features missing for me that are missing for them? I need to clearly understand what the limitations are on their end for frustration-free collaboration. Thanks!

And now I know the shortcut to Show Others in the Layers tab of the Nav palette.

I’m a huge fan of the Option key as a modifier. This may already exist (similar to Space bar panning or mouse wheel flyover) but maybe something like an Option+Command+6 to zoom all panes to extents? And then add a warning like “Do you really want to zoom all panes to extents” (with a checkbox to dismiss future warnings) to minimize calls to Tech Support.

@Josh Loy I was in a user group last week, and a few folks wanted the ability to control all panes (like zoom in / out / to extents). I’m pretty ambivalent about that request (can see it causing confusion) but thought I’d pass it along. Also loving the behind the scenes thinking on this feature, so maybe that’s something y’all wrestled with…

That’s what I was hoping for—thanks! Yes—perfect! That sounds like another dialog, so I support the original decision to omit adding another layer of friction to the interface. The checkbox menu is still very lean and mean, so there’s plenty of room to add a few more controls there.

@Tobias Kern that's what I was wondering… What if there was a checkbox for Save Multiple Pane Views (in the attached screenshot)? I’m also wondering if there’s a way to set or hack the default MVP to get closer to what you seek…

Rhino is excellent for 3D modeling but I may be misunderstanding what you’re looking for… Multiple views in VW are insanely configurable and powerful. Here’s a recent screenshot of when I was testing how far I could take it, and eventually just stopped because it was getting ridiculous. Tearing off the views is one of my favorite features. Likewise, I don’t see any issue with limiting a custom config to only what you need. Hope that helps!

Also: Command+0 will reset to actual size Safari prefs > Websites > Page Zoom The gear icon in the toolbar with the same settings (very easy to accidentally activate)

Hey @Wes Gardner , totally understand the thinking behind that, and it’s certainly great to have the option but the rule of thumb for me has been: only annotate on the SLVP when absolutely necessary. Without listing a bunch of small specific use cases, there are 2 main reasons: I want to edit one time (on the DL) and have those edits populate in all SLVP’s where I can control them with classes The last thing I want to do is dimension 10 SLVPs, revise the DL with client feedback, and then re-dimension 10 SLVPs (especially if a VP corrupts) I realize that dims and DT’s associate to objects but often times I’m adding a new object or… Entering the annotation mode is slow, and working on SL’s in general is slow That said, I’ll definitely give this new method a shot with various plots and plans to see if this improves my workflow but the idea of switching back and forth between DL and SLVP annotation modes while working with Braceworks doesn’t sound very efficient. Maybe I’ll just edit / enter the Braceworks DL through the SLVP? Thanks for the tips on the Space Tool. However, there are still cases where I need to use the ST because of the DT's limitations with displaying units, markers, and ability to calculate functions (sometimes literally displaying the function operators vs actually calculating).

First I’m hearing of Data Tags set up to work best on Sheet Layers but that certainly explains their page-based placement. Why are they not set up to work on Design Layers like myriad other tags and annotations from the space tool to gird lines / dimensions to label legends...

Imported their latest rev as both a mesh and 3D poly’s. Files look identical pixel for pixel but the 3D poly’s file doubled the size (and took forever to import), so I’m sticking with mesh as the preferred import option for now.

Just found this thread. I was surprised to discover that my client’s copy of Fundamentals does not include the Nav Palette. Upgrading doesn’t sound like an option for them right now, and the crippled features (mainly navigating the app) is not a real selling point for them. Is there really no workaround other than using those drop down menus?

I haven’t fully tested this yet:

@Tim Norman-Prahm I've never seen that but I alway export (from a SLVP) vs save. Does that happen when you export as well?

@Art V I imported that one as a mesh. I’ll try 3D poly’s next time. Let me know you recommend anything going straight into VW. I’ve had a few trial versions of Rhino and Cinema over the years that I mainly used for importing/exporting. I may rent Cinema for this project over the next few months…

Thanks, everyone! Sounds like my original plan was a great example of “the road to hell is paved with good intentions.” Nevertheless, as I get to know their process, and we continue to collaborate, this thread will be a fantastic knowledge base for streamlining and troubleshooting our workflow. 🤘🏼

Guess that would explain this mess mesh. Also, thanks for sharing the link!