Site Model Section Viewport Graphic Attributes

[Josh NZ]

I have a site model which I have cut a sectional viewport through the middle.

Have assigned the site model to a class.

Have ensured that the attributes are set to class attributes.

Have gone through the graphic attributes tab in the site model settings and applied every colour of the rainbow to the different elements of the site and also changed the colour of the site class, however in section the ground line still shows as black.

Also have unticked the option that applies section-style to objects in VP.

Have also made sure the Black and White only option is not selected under Display settings.

Where am I going wrong... someone please help.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Josh NZ

[AlanW]

if you are using the section viewport the program creates a class called section style, change this one and the section appearance should change.

HTH

[Josh NZ]

Have just gone into Advanced properties>Attributes>section plane and ticked "merge cross sections & create structural and nonstructural groups", was then able to change the nonstructural class to site-model. This showed the site section as dashed and grey as I had hoped. The only downside is that the joinery and other objects now show as the same.

Have tried several other combinations including ticking "separate cross sections" then ticking "use attributes of original objects", it even says in the dialog that it will use the setting of the original object, which is great... but still shows as black and solid.

[Josh NZ]

Hi Alan

Thanks for that but that changes everything in the section to the same style. Im also trying to avoid stacking viewports which seems to be the common work around to get the views required for various plans.

[AlanW]

You have the option in the Viewport OIP to have background and foreground settings and also in the each one also you have options that may suite your purpose.

[Josh NZ]

Have gone through all the dashed line settings and open GL, renderworks, custom etc, still no luck.

In all other viewports, say elevations, plans etc all I would do is do a class override if I wanted to change the colour or linetype, am I missing something with the section viewports? It seems like I should just be able to do a class override on the site model or even the walls for that matter and that should work.

Im not trying to show the cross section in any top end kind of presentation just a simple line drawing with no depth.

[AlanW]

Maybe post a sample of a file but usually the only reason you cant change the line or fill in a viewport is if part of it is not set to by class in attribute pallet for that object.

[Josh NZ]

Hi Alan.

I have attached a VW file with only a site model and wall.

Have also attached a couple of images showing the graphic attributes of the site model.

In the VW file on the cross section VP I have done a couple of class overrides. You will be able to see the wall appears as required, however the site still shows as black even thou (from what I can see) all setting are set to pink, blue, yellow etc.

Thanks in advance for any time taken to look at this.

[AlanW]

Hi,

When I open the file in 2016 I get this.

I change the colours through the Viewport and all is as expected.

Maybe there is a problem with VW2013.

HTH

Edited May 4, 2016 by Alan Woodwell

[Josh NZ]

The images you have attached are how I would have expected it to show, yeah must be a VW 2013 issue.

Thanks again.

[Josh NZ]

As a another workaround, the merged cross section with structural / non-structural groups achieves 99% what I am after. You can see in the image the joinery shows the same as the site as im guessing there is some setting that make site model and joinery "non-structural". How would I designate the joinery as also being structural?

[Josh NZ]

Tried the file in the 2014 version and also still a problem.

[AlanW]

Attached is an example, Still needs a lot of work but this is all 3d Model.

Section Viewport

HTH

[Josh NZ]

That's roughly what I am trying to achieve, all class overrides work with the exception of the site model. Have checked setting I can find for class attributes, but no matter what, in section it still shows as a black solid line.

[Josh NZ]

Please see attachments

[Josh NZ]

Please see more attached images

[Josh NZ]

Last image.

As you can see the site shows black not red or pink.

[Josh NZ]

Can anyone think of another way to get the site model to show as a black dashed line without affecting the graphic attributes of the other objects and without pasting VPs on top of each other?

I find it strange that this simple command is not working as the site model is shown on many plans and you need to be able to change the appearance depending on which sheet. I could understand if I have maybe not assigned the correct class or had any one of the setting not by class, but as you can see from the earlier screenshots I think I have covered all of those.

[Josh NZ]

Have attached a few more screenshots.

[Jonathan Pickup]

when I looked at your earlier screenshots showing the graphic attributes of the site model components, I would have expected this dialog box to be using the class settings. Have you checked to make sure that your graphic attributes on your site model is set to use the class attributes?

[Josh NZ]

Hi Jonathon

Yeah I have double checked the Graphic Properties Settings.

If I change the class settings of say "site-contours" or ", these changes are reflected in this properties setting window.

Strangely if I view the model in wireframe, the mesh shows as the colour requested, but in any other setting it just reverts to solid black.

Have attached a PDF showing all the combinations i have tried. The 3Ds seem to work but in section always shows as black

[Josh NZ]

Forgot to add this image.

Even thou the colour list doesn't show as "by class", each attributes setting is set to by class.

Not sure why this doesn't show the same as every other setting in VW.

[AlanW]

Does your class have use at creation ticked and fill solid??

[Josh NZ]

Just looked and that option is ticked.

[AlanW]

In your viewport advanced settings untick use Attributes of original object any you will have dotted.

Hope this works in 2014, I use 2016.

HTH

Edited May 11, 2016 by Alan Woodwell