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"Layers" menu icon: box or iso-cube?

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Area: Layers, Layers menu

Icon adjacent to a layer name seems to be able to be either a square "box" with two square brackets ( bottom and right), OR an isometric "cube". I can find no explanation in the manual or Help about this.

It seems that when a layer becomes identified with the "iso-cube", its members behave wierdly, certainly not as they did before they mysteriously changed. I am at a loss for why that layer changed from the well-behaved box to the cube.

In this case, the drawing is entirely 2-d, and I have a layer (and class) for "guides", that I use this to establish basic geometry before creating the actual part object views over it, such that I have good intersections to snap to.

This has happened on two projects now, the first time I just created a new fresh layer and recreated my guides. The second time is too much. How can overcome/undo this? What is the cause in the first place?

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Andy,

Are you referring to the mode bar buttons when the 3d selection tool is selected?

If not, I am throughly confused as to what the problem is. There are no icons adjacent to the layers drop down box, unless you are referring to either a docked palette (which one?), or the mode bar buttons (which tool is selected?).

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Andy, the "iso-cube" (as you call it) signifies that the layer is in a view OTHER THAN TOP PLAN (ie: a 3d view). To get back to the "square" icon: with the layer you want to change as the active layer, go to VIEW>TOP PLAN.

Peter

PS: It is basic to the program to be able to view layers in 2d (top plan) or 3d (all other views). You should re-read your manual!

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This is an easy mistake to make, the key pad is programmed to switch views, so if you hit #2 your view will change to the front elevation. The problem is that if you are drawing in 2-D only, you won't see any change, you will simply lose the ability to snap to other layers. If you don't realize this you could easily accidentaly hit a number on the key pad and not realize what has happened. Another way to get your layer back to 2-D - Top/Plan is to make the layer active and then hit #0 on the Key pad.

Good Luck

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Katie,

No, I didn't have the 3d selection tool, or anything 3d going at the time. I had taken some pains to make sure that this entire drawing was strictly in 2d, given my experience earlier (I have to ship a drawing, not learn 3d right now!)

About the only thing that I can think of that might have caused this condition was that prior I had grouped then duplicated/moved/rotated some guides, then ungrouped them. Before the ungroup command was executed, I was presented with a mysterious dialog, something like, "release objects with class information? yes always, never, just this time" (or something like that). I don't remember my response, mainly because I didn't understand the context of the dialog question.

About then is when the "iso-cube" trouble seemed to start. Thankfully the other contributors nailed the cure.

andy

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Thank you MikeB and Peter! Activating my Guides layer then selecting View>Top Plan cured the problem.

I still don't know how I caused the condition, since I don't use a keyboard with a keypad; also the manual section on views doesn't explain the "iso cube" icon that appears next to each layer in the Layers list (at least, I couldn't find it).

andy

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When you see the ISO cube thing you are referring to, do you have teh 3d selection tool selected???

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Andy, I would guess you inadvertantly hit the "3" (PgDn) key on the keypad when you meant to hit "Enter." With all 2D objects, you wouldn't notice anything on the screen, but the effect would be exactly what you observed.

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I asked if you had the 3d selection tool selected because there are modes that have icons like a house or cube representing the view they look at.

The mode bar is right below the data display bar. I was thinking the icon you are referring to were those icons. I'm still confused over the icons you are referring to that are next to the layers drop down box.

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Katie,

He's talking about the small square (or cube depending on the view of the layer) next to the layer name in the layer list that drops down. It is a Sq if the layer is in a 2-D view, and it is a Cube if the layer is in a 3-D view.

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