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Conrad Preen

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    Hi Scott, there is no way to do that in the Device Builder. Horizontal arrays of sockets in the general case aren't really great because their names make the spacing too great. But the beauty of ConnectCAD is that there's nothing stopping you from just creating an empty device and the adding sockets wherever you want.



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  2. @tk_ collaboration in Vectorworks where you have multiple designers working together is done through Project Sharing. There is a master file, and you can check out the layers you are working on and then save your changes back. Your lighting colleagues can do the same on their layers. That way the data doesn't have to jump between files.


    Check out the online help for more about Project Sharing.



  3. @Enzo Vernusse Just posting a Google translate. Hope it does justice to your words.




    Hello Nikolay,

    First of all, thank you for your quick response. This allowed me to move forward on the subject but I wonder about other issues.


    By using your solution, I am restricted from being able to modify the basic connector styles, which are 9 in number (skt_con / skt_con_classic / skt_con_ctp / skt_con_ajf / etc...)


    This involves two problems:

    The first is that I am forced to use only 9 graphic styles, while the diversity of devices present on my synoptic means that I need many more connectors.

    The second problem is that each time I create a synoptic I will have to remodify all the basic graphic styles, which involves a great waste of time.


    I am therefore looking to be able to create my own graphic styles which will then be available in the "graphic style" dialog box from the "Object Info" object palette.


    I have tried several procedures which have not succeeded, but this may give rise to some food for thought:


    I imported an XLR connector ("panel connectors" folder) into the "symbol Parts" folder of my open file. Then in the "data" palette I tried to link to the "skt_rec" database format but this gives nothing conclusive.

    I'm also considering taking my XLR connector back, saving it as a symbol




    We will look into this. I'm pretty sure this was possible but maybe not in the way you are trying. Truth is, not a lot of people customize socket graphics.



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  4. @wscooper Not exactly clear about your question. By "new and better connector layouts" are you talking about connector panel design? And how does that fit in with drop points that essentially are locations of equipment that has not yet been specified?



  5. @Pat Stanford There is one report that we create programmatically bypassing as you put it the normal database from criteria mechanism. This is the worksheet created by the tool Make Rack Equipment Worksheet. This list each available position in the rack as a worksheet row and what equipment if any is mounted there.

    Since it doesn't list drawing objects it can't use normal reporting.


    Thanks for your kind words - we do what we can!



  6. @SSvectorproblems Hello. Yes @spettitt is right. The purpose of the Use Symbol checkbox is to allow you to use an existing ordinary 3D symbol say one you snagged off a manufacturer's website as the graphics for your equipment item. If you have created a red symbol (convert-to-plugin-object) from your equipment item then all you need to do is drag that in from the Resource Manager directly. I will check on this problem and see if there's something we can do to alert you if you choose a red symbol. As for the socket symbol that you see that just happens to be the first in the document - we use symbols as building blocks quite a lot in ConnectCAD because it allows you to customise things.


    Hope this helps,



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  7. @Pat Stanford The Device Connections Report is in fact a report on the Socket objects in the drawing. But as Niko says we created specialized functions that allow you to access the parameters of the parent device of each socket. When you order the rows by Device Name you get what appears to be a database of Devices and their sockets.

    And of course we also have a function to get the circuits connected to each socket too! So that way we can get the cable number. Sockets also have a hidden parameter that counts the number of connections that a socket has. Basically all the parts are there and can be put together to create whatever views anyone wants.


    One thing I noticed in this request was that un-connected sockets are also listed. The Device Connections report will list these IF these sockets are present on the drawing. Not everyone includes all unused sockets in their devices because this eats up drawing space. Just to be aware.



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  8. Hey everyone!


    If your rack names look like this when you've created a rack elevation viewport, this is why.


    Even though the viewport is set to Hidden Line render, objects that have no fill are rendered as wireframe because they can't hide another object seeing as they have no fill... right? So when you have Fill = None in the classes CC-Rack3D-Graphics-Top and CC-Rack3D-Text-Name the top of the rack will be see-thru meaning that you will see both the front and back labels of the rack.

    So to avoid this at least in the viewport class overrides give those classes a solid fill and the rear text won't show.


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  9. Hello @btgroves


    In the end this comes down to how the classes are set up. If you have Fill = None in classes CC-Rack3D-Graphics-Top and CC-Rack3D-Text-Name then these will be rendered as wireframe even though the render mode is set to hidden line. How do you hide lines when the object has no fill - right?


    In viewports you can override the class settings just for that viewport so you're not forced to have a fill in your model if you don't want one.


    I think this clears it up. The reason why it was hard for us to make it happen was that it needed 2 classes to not have fill.


    Best regards



  10. Hi Simon,


    Just for the others watching this thread. Putting the Rack object inside the 3D flight case symbol does not work for 2 reasons: 1. each symbol instance will have the same Rack ID, 2. the Equipment Item object/tool does not look inside symbols or groups. Given that it searches for Racks dynamically as it hovers over objects, looking inside group or symbols would probably result in an unacceptable slowdown.


    As things stand the Rack object and any 3D symbol representing say a flight-case have to both be top-level objects. And then everything works pretty nicely IMO.



  11. 16 hours ago, tk_ said:

    I wanted to basically just have one with rack rails and no enclosure

    That's what you get if you set the rack to Console style with Slope=0. Play with the side cheek thickness to meet your needs. You can place this inside a 3D symbol of your flight case and drop your equipment in in the normal way.



  12. @btgroves Vectorworks reports list drawing objects. So a circuit report for example will not show un-connected sockets. The standard Device Connections report is probably your best starting point. This actually lists all the sockets, but retrieves the device info and the connected circuit using special worksheet functions e.g. =OBJECTDATA('EVAL SOCKET CIRCUITS', 'Circuit', 'number'). In the worksheet menu Insert > Function... you find a whole swathe of these functions that help you get the attached records and parameters of objects that are associated with the database criterion.


    I'm pretty sure you'll find the solution you are looking for there. But if you get stuck please reach out.



  13. Thanks Scott!


    I think you have just excellently summarized the need to consider ALL conductors in any electrical model. As Vectorworks we cannot do less. So everyone will have to be a bit patient while we get this worked out.



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  14. Spotlight power planning is not integrated with ConnectCAD. We are working on it.


    I also grew up in the 220-240 volt world so I find the antics of our US counterparts hair raising! But this is our reality.

  15. @tk_

    10 minutes ago, tk_ said:

    I think we can safely assume that neutral and earth will be wired in and we can see this as the signal "L1"

    For a knowledgeable user who is aware of the assumptions he is making, I would agree with you. Though I wonder how the practices followed in the US involving wiring appliances across phases would fit in with this? Neutrals are often undersized on the assumption of proper phase balance etc. Would we need to be alert to a possible overloaded neutral? Designers inevitably rely on the results obtained from these models even though the small print in the EULA tells them not to. So as Vectorworks it's not so easy for us to release an electrical model that is incomplete and might fail to predict a real-world problem.


    However I am very interested in discussing this maybe we can find a solution.



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