P Retondo Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 Here's the latest on my window and door problems (using the "Window" insertion tool): I have the new door and window .vso files sent by Katie, dated 2-10-03. Using these, I get the following: if I select the tool, I see the dotted "preview" object, I can set the desired preferences, and I can place the window. I can continue placing that window successfully. However, whether or not I place a window, if I hit "escape" I cannot go back and use the insertion tool again. When I select it the tool, I DO NOT see the dotted preview object, and when I place a window it does not appear on the screen, although its parameters appear in the OIP. I use "escape" frequently, to change focus from the OIP to the drawing. I have a habit of using it sometimes between selecting tools, also, though it isn't necessary. This appears to be the source of my problem with the crashing window insertion tools. If I do not use "escape," things appear to go properly. Since I almost always use "esc" to exit the OIP, whenever I have edited a window's parameters there, I have ended up crashing the tools. Hopefully this may be a pretty simple bug - ask the programmer to find out why using "esc" crashes the tools. I've wondered why a lot of people haven't reported this problem. It may be because most users click on the drawing to change focus from the OIP. [ 02-21-2003, 02:42 AM: Message edited by: P Retondo ] Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Robert Anderson Posted February 21, 2003 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted February 21, 2003 What are your class option settings? Quote Link to comment
jfmarch Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 I alwaya use the "~" key (the arrow tool) to switch out of other tools, including symbol placement. There is never a problem. Quote Link to comment
P Retondo Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 quote: Originally posted by jfmarch: I alwaya use the "~" key (the arrow tool) to switch out of other tools, including symbol placement. There is never a problem. Jim, is this a Mac thing? My tilde key (PC) requires the shift, so I wouldn't use that as a shortcut for clicking the mouse. Just tried it, and the tilde key on a PC does not act to change focus. [ 02-23-2003, 03:31 PM: Message edited by: P Retondo ] Quote Link to comment
P Retondo Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 quote: Originally posted by Robert Anderson: What are your class option settings? Forgive me, Robert, but I don't know what you mean by "class option settings." Update: I work on both a WinXP and a Win2K machine. It appears that the problem involving the "esc" key occurs only with Win2K. I worked for several hours on doors, using "esc", and didn't crash the tools once with WinXP. The first time I tried it again on a Win2K machine, the tools crashed immediately after using "esc." There are some other differences between these machines - one (WinXP) has a GeForce4 ti 4200 video card, the other (Win2K) has a GeForce3 ti 200. -Pete [ 02-24-2003, 12:58 AM: Message edited by: P Retondo ] Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Robert Anderson Posted February 24, 2003 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted February 24, 2003 Class options: Organize Menu: Class Options: Active Only Gray Others Show Others Show/Snap Others Show/Snap/Modify Others Quote Link to comment
B.Howell Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 I just loaded the new 10.1 that came in the mail this morning. I used the same Icon on the desktop that had been there sinces first loading vw10. The window and door tools worked great for a while and then I had problems. I switched to stairs (just testing this out) and I was able to use the stairs until I tried to edit a set. At first it said that there was no edit behavior, but then it started editing the flight of stairs. After that I Could Not use the stair tool. I then closed out, put the VW icon in the garbage can, Pulled up a shortcut from VW10.1 and started again. ALL the windows and stairs which wouldn't show before came up on the screen. I checked them for classes, made that class active,set options to active only, they ALL disappeared. It would seem that they do have a class but it is not recognized. If I use show/snap/modify others they show in black and I can access them. If I gray them, they will never show black no matter which class is active. It appears that they have all been neutered, but still have name tags. I realize that this is long but it may shed some light on the real problem. Let me know what you think. In the meantime I will use the shutdown method every time I have a problem. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Robert Anderson Posted February 24, 2003 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted February 24, 2003 As I have said previously in other forums, DO NOT use the "Active Class Only" class mode unless you have a specific reason to. Generally, you need some very specific kind of reason to use ANY class mode other than "Show/Snap/Modify Others". Quote Link to comment
P Retondo Posted February 24, 2003 Author Share Posted February 24, 2003 B. Howell, what is probably happening, as RA is suggesting, is that although the object is set to a certain class, which is active, it contains within it a bunch of primitive objects which are members of a different class. Hence, with the "active class only" setting, you are looking at an empty "container". Quote Link to comment
P Retondo Posted February 25, 2003 Author Share Posted February 25, 2003 Show/snap/modify others Quote Link to comment
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