Shutters different color than window?

[JackBuilt]

Greetings. I'm guessing this may be something easy I have overlooked.  How do I make my shutters render one color and my window render another?

 

Thanks

Edited September 15, 2019 by Inspectorjack

[mike m oz]

You control the appearance of the different components of the Window object by Classes.  

• Create a unique Class for the external or internal shutters, choose the colour you want (or the texture you want) and set the Class properties to Use at creation.
• Then assign that Class to the external or internal shutters in the Window Settings dialog box.

 

[JackBuilt]

3 hours ago, mike m oz said:

You control the appearance of the different components of the Window object by Classes.  

• Create a unique Class for the external or internal shutters, choose the colour you want (or the texture you want) and set the Class properties to Use at creation.
• Then assign that Class to the external or internal shutters in the Window Settings dialog box.

 

 

Ok thank very much for this reply.  This works for new windows but doesnt seem to allow to set the class for existing window shutters so I guess I have to re-create the windows that have shutters so I can control their graphic attributes??  Seems overly clunky.

[mike m oz]

Are the existing windows Vectorworks Window objects or are they Symbols?

 

If they are Vectorworks Window objects use the command Update Plug-in objects in the Utilities sub menu menu in the Tools menu.

 

If they are Symbols edit the Symbol to see if they are Vectorworks Window objects.  If they are then update them.

 

If they are Symbols that are not Vectorworks Window objects then you should be able to Class the individual 3D component parts.

 

Also check to see if the shutters have been modelled separately.

[JackBuilt]

The windows are VW2019 Windows tool objects.  Update Plug-in objects did not seem to work.

 

In the OIP I can change the Texture such as Arroway Walnut Black getting me close but that changes the window and the shutter at the same time.

 

Thats the closest I can get to what I want for now,

 

Edited September 16, 2019 by Inspectorjack

[mike m oz]

If you want different textures for different components of the Window object you need to define the Texture as part of the Class for each Component and then on the OIP set the Texture to Class Texture.

 

I know that seems a little obtuse but that is the way Vectorworks does it.

[Guest Wes Gardner]

@Inspectorjack...try mine...get into the Class dialog and under Window-Shutter, get into the Texture chooser and choose another one and see what happens

 

 

Shutter Test.vwx

[JackBuilt]

Looking at the Window Tool Settings dialog as posted there by Mike, the only classes that are created by window insertion are Glazing. The other <Window Class> does not appear to exist in my file.  I did create a class for the shutters but it has no effect on the already inserted shutters.

[Guest Wes Gardner]

@Inspectorjack, are you really on V2012?  If so, there have been a few changes in the Window/Door PIOs (plug-in objects)...maybe post a window in a file...

 

Wes

[JackBuilt]

5 hours ago, Wes Gardner said:

@Inspectorjack, are you really on V2012?  If so, there have been a few changes in the Window/Door PIOs (plug-in objects)...maybe post a window in a file...

 

Wes

I am in fact running 2019 SP3.  This file was created in 2018 if memory serves my correctly.  

[JackBuilt]

It seems that my issue is that I am trying to color or texture a "Custom Shutter".  Tried on Wes' shutter.test file as well (switch to custom shutter and texture does not apply). As shown I am using the Rustic shutter and I cannot change its attributes it seems without changing the window itself as well.

 

Opening Wes' shutter.test gives me window classes along with window and trim classes.  My own file does not have these classes.  Wes did you create these classes or are the generated by the Window tool?

[mike m oz]

Edit the 3D component of the Rustic Shutter symbol and change its Class from None to the Class you have created for the shutter.

Window with Rustic Shutters..vwx

[JackBuilt]

Thank you for the help guys.  I have something buggy going on but I copied mike's window into my file and changed my shutters to his shutter class and I can now change the texture of the rustic shutters.  Interestingly even if I change the window's shutter class to a class I created I cannot change the texture AND the graphic control is still dictated by Mike's imported class.  Dunno don't care that much at this point.  This house will be sided and done soon.

 

I'll be updating to latest SP or 2020 and check to see if this is resolved for my next house.

[JackBuilt]

Window_Problem.vwx

 

Started new template file.  Created class for shutters.  Gave it a texture.  Created a window with rustic shutters.  No textures.

[mike m oz]

You need to edit the Rustic Shutter symbol in your file and change the Class of its 3D components to the Class created for the rustic shutters.

[JackBuilt]

30 minutes ago, mike m oz said:

You need to edit the Rustic Shutter symbol in your file and change the Class of its 3D components to the Class created for the rustic shutters.

Thanks a million Mike. Thats what I needed.

[Partridge Design]

Inspectorjack thank you as well