skylight editing (miter options)

[gester]

i try to find the skylight miter editing options listed in the following document:

nemetschek skylight editing info

but i can't see any objectinfo for skylight, it's only for the roof itself.

i intend to chose the splayed shape of the skylight roof opening, but it's nowhere to be found. am i missing something?

thx in advance,

rob

[taoist]

Found this video.

Edited July 13, 2013 by taoist

[taoist]

I just tried to insert Velux skylight from library.

Skylight does not insert into roof.

I used Create Roof Tool.

Skylight remains on vertical plane.

Click on skylight and OIP says 3D symbol, so should not be an issue.

Any ideas?

[gester]

rod,

i've watched both videos a few times already. the skylight insertion works this way as in the videos, you must but:

1. place the standard window anywhere in the top/plan view

2. convert this window into a symbol

3. select this new created symbol in the resource browser

4. then place the symbol in any 3d view (i use top view) - you see then all window parts in the object info dialog

5. ungroup it

6. turn it back into a skylight symbol again (this time it's a 3d symbol only).

then you can use it as a skylight, as in the educational videos.

the trouble is that everything works fine except for the miter editing options. this dialog doesn't exist in the roof element options palette.

rob

[taoist]

I would like to know why I can't insert Velux skylights (3D Symbol) into the roof.

Too many workarounds or steps to go through to place a skylight or a window.

Time to file a bug.

[mike m oz]

Taoist inserting the Library Velux Skylight symbols works fine for in both Roofs and Roof Faces (see attached file). There is another set of skylights in the Service Select Libraries which you can also try.

The form of the 'hole' is determined by the Roof or Roof Face Hole setting on the OIP. Unfortunately it is an overall setting for all holes in the roof rather than an individual setting for each hole. The latter would be far better.

You will need to edit the skylight Symbol to get its position relative to the roof face correct for your roof thickness.

Edited July 13, 2013 by mike m oz

[gester]

thanks, mike, i must examine the file with its settings. can you please post a v2012, too?

thx

rob

[taoist]

mike,

are you saying place the skylight 1st then cut a hole or place the hole then the skylight.

No matter what I do the skylight does not insert into the roof and no window pops up to edit either dormer or skylight.

Must be something I am not doing correctly.

[gester]

rod,

in order to get the dialog window you must click on the skylight handle. the skylight itself must be an only 3d object (a '3' in the resource browser beside the window symbol).

the skylight cuts the hole in the roof and places the window simultaneously.

rob

Edited July 14, 2013 by gester

[mike m oz]

Taoist. when you have the Symbol Insertion tool active make sure the Wall Insertion Mode is on in the Tool Bar. I find it easiest to insert objects in roofs in Top/Plan View.

gester, the version Vw 2012 file attached.

[gester]

thanks, mike.

i must have really missed the skylight option in the roof setting.

the roof face has a much more evident layout for this.

the only thing i can't see now is the skylight insertion option: either flush or surface mounted. as i set the velux in the roof a-new, it's surface mounted (and it's ok with me, i use this option in most cases). how can i choose the other insertion option, though? is it in the insertion option of the symbol itself?

rob

[taoist]

mike,

Thank you. That was my issue.

[taoist]

How do we edit the offset of the skylight within the roof?

That is, vertically in relation to the roof plane.

[mike m oz]

Edit the symbol and in Top/Plan View move the 3D Symbol part along the Y axis. To move it from flush with the bottom face of the Roof to the top surface of the roof move it down by the thickness of the roof. Through trial and error I have worked out that is what you need to do with the Velux roof symbols and yes I do recognise that moving it down in the edit to make it go up in the roof is not very intuitive.

[taoist]

mike,

Thank you.

Definitively need options in the edit skylight window for this.

Should have offset in roof like we do for doors and windows.

Jamb extensions would be nice also.