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Tamsin Slatter

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  1. Hi James


    Thanks for your feedback. I will certainly ensure that our engineering team see your video. The issue with the crashing script and the NURBS curve is clearly a problem which we need to investigate.


    In terms of the design of the feature, it sounds like you've given this a thorough workout - but I just wanted to check... do the Speed and View Angle controls (below the Keyframes section on the Object Info palette) not help you with building in the pauses and speed controls that you need? 


    All the best

  2. Alternatively, import the PDF onto its own Design Layer and move that layer below the other geometry. You can drag it on the Navigation palette, if you put the mouse pointer on the Stacking order column number.

  3. In Vectorworks Preferences, go to the session tab and make sure your error logging is set to verbose. This will ensure that your crash logs are uploaded automatically to the engineers' server. If you provide the tech support team with the last 6 digits of the serial number, they will be able to look up the crash logs and assist in the diagnosis.

  4. Hi Parker

    Thanks for sharing the video. I can see the problem, but I guess this is only half the story. Without seeing what's in the reference file, it's hard to be sure what's going wrong. But you mention that your reference file is linked to a viewport, which implies that this is reference to another reference. That won't work. Best practice is to reference everything directly. Hope that helps!

  5. Yes, in haste - use the Title Block Border tool to create the title block style you want and then place an instance on each sheet layer. Then use the Title Block Border Settings button to update the project and sheet data. You can link the sheet number and the sheet title directly to the title block.

    If you have Vectorworks 2020, there is a template specifically for garden designers.


    Looking your signature though, I see you are on 2017, in which case you'll be using the Sheet Border tool to create your sheet border, and then within that use the Title Block button to select a title block symbol. Search Vectorworks Help for Title Block for more information.


    For the individual Viewports, insert a Drawing Label into the annotation space. This will display the scale of the viewport and the drawing title that you've used for the viewport.

    Good luck.

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  6. Morning all.

    I have had a chat with our engineer and done some more testing myself.


    For the British National Grid, if you align the User Origin, with the Easting and Northing Origin within the Geographic Coordinate System (EPSG code 27700 - the default in the UK templates), CAD drawing within that coordinate system will have the correct X and Y coordinates on export to DWG. So, if you are sending stuff back to someone who has no concept of GIS systems and their software does not use it, this will be fine.


    The issue currently, within SP1, is that there is not easy way to align the User Origin with the Geographic Coordinate System, because you can't see it and there is nothing to snap to. But there is a way to do it (details below). Even better though, from SP2, there WILL be a way to do this within the Tools > Origin > User Origin command (thank you engineering team!)


    Here's how to do this in SP1:

    1. Open a UK template - this will already have the default EPSG 27700 code to set the geographic coordinate system to British National Grid.
    2. Set the Document Units to Meters, with an appropriate precision.
    3. Import your DWG using the Document Contains Georeferenced Geometry option on the import dialog. This will import the DWG into the geographic coordinate system. Also import any Shapefiles if you are using those.
    4. Use the Geolocate tool to move the INTERNAL origin close to your geometry (just click on the drawing). This will not change any coordinates with in the Easting and Northing coordinates - it simply ensures that the geometry is close to the internal origin and avoids the traditional problems with any CAD system of placing a huge calculation burden on the system with every move of the mouse.
    5. At this point, the User Coordinate System (User Origin) and the rulers will not show anything relevant. Don't panic!
    6. Choose Tools > Origin > User Origin and choose the option to set it by next click. Click on the Internal Origin, to align it with the Internal Origin. (Again, don't panic - this is temporary!)
    7. Use the Stake tool and place a Stake on the Internal Origin (and User Origin). Set it to display Coordinate Point (E,N) in Meters with full precision.
    8. Make a note of the E and N numbers from the Stake (screenshot, write it down, or ungroup it to get the text - whichever method you prefer).
    9. Now change the X and Y coordinates of the Stake to match the E and N, but with a negative. For example: If E is 10000 and N is 5000, set X to -10000 and Y to -5000. This will move the stake to the origin of the Geographic Coordinate System, and give you a valuable snap point.
    10. The Stake should still be selected, so click Fit to Objects to find it.
    11. Now run Tools > Origin > Internal Origin again and choose again the option to set it by next click.
    12. Click on the Insertion point of the Stake. The User Origin is now aligned with the Geographic Coordinate System. The rulers will show relevant values.

    Using the above method, I was then able to draw new stuff over my DWG, and then export the drawing back to DWG. I then imported it into a blank file WITHOUT using the Document Contains Georeferenced Geometry option, and all was good. The coordinates of the site matched, and the size and position of my new stuff also matched.


    I do hope this helps clear up confusion and doesn't add to it!

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  7. Yes - that's my understanding too. They won't match while you are working in a Georeferenced file, but when you export back to DWG, the E and N should just unwrap to boring old X and Y. I'm just testing a couple of things... Hold that thought. 

    (We are all going to need a large glass of wine/whisky tonight!)


  8. 3 minutes ago, lisagravy said:

    Thanks @RussU - much appreciated.


    Also thanks @Tamsin Slatter - I have tested exporting the georeferenced file to DWG and reimporting in a non-georeferenced file, and it doesn't maintain X, Y co-ordinates unfortunately.


    I think the reason is that if you geo-locate, and effectively move the user and internal origin to the project location, the export retains the X, Y position relative to this origin point. If you didn't geolocate it might retain the X, Y co-ordinates, but then we would obviously have issues with functionality of the file? The only way I can get it to work is by geo-locating, but then moving the user origin back to the equivalent of British Grid 0,0. Then the X, Y in the file looks to be representative of the E, N values... and exports and imports again ok.


    But I don't want to start doing this if there are issues with it I can't see... 🙈 

    I am checking this out for you Lisa... I will let you know as soon as I get the answer. 😀

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  9. Hi Lisa


    So, that's correct - and actually answers your other question too.

    If you import the DWG into the standard X and Y coordinates with no georeferencing, and make a note of the coordinates of a known point, then repeat the test with a georeferenced file, then the coordinates of that point SHOULD match in X and Y and E and N. In the georeferenced version of that import, the X and Y coordinates in the original file have been projected into the georeferenced version of the coordinate system. The benefit of this is that you can combine GIS data (such as Shapefiles) with traditional X and Y CAD data.

    Before Vectorworks 2020 - it was very difficult to combine the two. Because you could not import the DWG into the Georeferenced coordinate system.


    So, your X and Y file should definitely match the E and N file.

    However, once you are working in a georeferenced file, my point is that you should use the E and N only, as these will be the accurate numbers. The X and Y in such a file is no longer relevant.


    It is my belief that should you then export these E and N coordinates back to DWG, they will give accurate X and Y for the recipient, even if they have no knowledge of or GIS capability - but I do want my genius colleague who developed all this to confirm that.

    Hope that makes sense!

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  10. 6 minutes ago, bozho said:

    Thanks for filing this request! Sounds like a good idea, and not just for the site model.


    Here are some more details about it:

    The Site model is TIN-based which means that we currently model only the terrain surface. What the "3D Mesh" with "skirt" option does is to create a mesh which encloses a volume but at the end it is still a mesh and that is why when using Clip Cube or Clop Cube Viewport, it appears hollow (same is the behavior when Clip Cube works on any meshes which enclose volumes - to see it just ungroup the site model from the test file). It seems that in order to change this behavior we need changes in the Clip Cube functionality so it interprets enclosed meshes as "solids"?

    Thanks for the explanation. Very helpful, and yes, it would be great if it were possible to enhance the Clip Cube in this way.

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  11. 1 minute ago, lisagravy said:

    Thanks @Tamsin Slatter - I guess.... (possibly incorrectly?!) that if I move the User Origin back to British Grid origin 0,0 after geolocating my file - by firstly defining it's current Easting and Northing position via GIS stake, and then moving it to the negative X and negative Y values of this - this sets my X and Y values to be the same as the eastings and northings? And then I could use the X Y positions of the GIS stake to move? 


    The problem with that is that X and Y will never completely match Easting and Northing when the geographic coordinate system is active. You can use the Great Circle tool to look at the difference. For example, draw a 50m length line with the Great Circle and then it will give you the true length of that line in Easting and Northing. They will be slightly different. So, even if the User Origin is aligned to the origin of the British National Grid (off the Scily Isles), there will still be differences between X and Easting and Y and Northing.

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  12. 27 minutes ago, lisagravy said:

    @bgoff Thanks @bgoff  - I've already set my file to use OSGB 36 and the origin is set, the file is accurately positioned and georeferenced.


    My question is about whether or not I can position a GIS stake point by typing in the co-ordinate, or if point and click to position is the only method? 

    Hi again Lisa

    Yeah - Bryan and I talked and discussed your requirement in a bit of detail.

    If you are using Long and Lat within your geographic coordinate system, then the answer is YES! You can use the Set Geolocation button on the Object Info palette, with the stake selected (You can also do this with the Modify > Move > Move Geographic menu option). However, if you want to work in Easting and Northing, in Meters (as I know you do!), then it doesn't offer that option. I am going to check with the developer whether the X and Y coordinates would help, but given that X and Y generally remains true to the original equirectangular non-georeferenced coordinate system, I believe the answer will be no. But I will confirm. 


    But I think being able to move to a specific Easting and Northing in meters would be a really nice enhancement.


    Have not forgotten your other question which came through on email - and I'm getting you a definitive answer!

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  13. Hi Andy


    1. No, not normal to have to Force Select, but if your modifiers are on the same layer as your site model, the cursor can have a hard time deciding what it is that you want to select. For that reason, I always put my modifiers on different design layers and ensure that my model is set to be updated by either visible layers only, or a set of specific layers (in site model settings).

    2. Yes - try Pad with Retaining Edge. Then use Send to Surface to send the retaining edge to the existing surface.

    3. Nice idea.

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  14. Hi Kevin

    Thank you for your feedback. I can see that we have a support case open regarding the slowness problems you are experiencing, so the team will continue to work with you through that channel to attempt to resolve that.

    Meanwhile, you asked for a full list of features, which you can find here:

    New Features Listed in Help System

    2020 Additional Features


    I did want to touch on some of the points you raise in the meantime:

    • GIS Improvements. You don't need to invest in ArcGIS to make use of the services offered with this tool. It enables the easy combination of CAD and GIS data within the same geographic coordinate system.
    • List Browser Direct Editing - no, there is no way to turn this off.
    • Widget Groups - This should not affect your interaction with the software at all. The Widget groups should be open by default, and if you don't close them, everything will still be available to you without extra clicks. You mention that you have been forced to use a hierarchical display for classes since 2019. This is something that you can control within Vectorworks Preferences. Open the Session tab and uncheck Display classes in pop-up menus hierarchically. 

    The team will continue to work with you regarding the slowness you are experiencing.

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