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Hi,

I am having real trouble with the space tool. Our building is about 350 rooms and I have used the paint bucket tool to auto-create spaces to walls. The trouble is the speed of the tool and especially the speed of updating the boundaries after wall changes. It takes my machine upwards of 10 minutes to compute the change.

A screen grab is attached FYI. As you can see the change in area is minimal but clicking "update boundary" from the OIP sends my machine into cardiac arrest.

PLEASE HELP!

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The update hasn't anything to do with how big the space is, but with how many wall are there to check. I think the space object checks every wall it can find in the layer, and other layers if modify other is on.

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Well I've had a go at turning off as much information as possible before editing the spaces and the problem remains.

I wonder if there is some hidden option that I have checked that is causing this problem.

I have tried this file on a number of hi-spec machines in the office.

Does anyone else have these problems using spaces? Does anyone else use spaces?

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I think it has to do with the number of spaces you have. Even in small projects with a limited number of spaces, even moving the spaces causes a noticeable lag before one can work again. I don't have a solution for you, unfortunately.

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We have exactly the same problem with spaces. Relatively modest groups of spaces can take several minutes to move, edit or update....even on our brand new Mac Pros...you have to go and make a cup of tea and come back every time.

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OK so I will just conclude that on a school project with 200+ rooms the spaces tool is useless. Very annoying.

There has to be some improvement on this tool as it promised to be one of the major benefits in using Vectorworks on Education projects, where occupancy data plays a key role in developing the scheme.

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We're using it on similar sized school projects, but these jobs are still in VW2008 rather than 2012. It's not as bad in 2008...same old VW...going backwards.

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Lee,

This is a known issue in 2011. Changes were made to 2012 to resolve this issue.

Nope. 2012 has this problem.

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Jeffrey - sample 2012 file attached from a colleague. This is a zipped file so change the extension from .vwx to .zip then unzip it.

Pick any space and try and turn on 'auto boundary' and then try and do something else - it will spin for at least a minute even in this stripped down version (machine spec same as my signature). Or try and edit a wall and update a space and you will wait for 30 seconds.

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And while I've got the attention of a real Nemetschekian can you request that the forums are updated to accept zip files without having to hide them, and that inline images can be posted directly without having to attach them and re-insert the image from the attachment. Pretty please.

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Thanks for the file, Chris.

I see the same thing, but not on all Spaces in your file. Some update immediately.

It is odd, because I don't see the same thing with many of my files, or anything I start from scratch.

I will pass this along.

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I also tested the file, and it's what I said before: there are too many walls on the layer. If you delete all things, except for the things in the right blue rectangle, then the spaces act normally. That's the thing with spaces in VW, VW looks for all walls in the layer and if they are many, then it can take some time.

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