Kanastrous Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Everything else does, though - lines at correct weight, imported bitmaps, dimension lines and elevation bubbles...but not one item has the text that appears on the screen, printing upon the page. Settings are identical to the previous document, wherein all of the text items printed just fine. Anyone have any ideas what's up, with this? Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 It will be very helpful (perhaps crucial) for you to post your OS Flavor and Version and your VW's Version. Also specific printer info... I assume this is a File-Specific problem? Any info on that will also help... Quote Link to comment
Kanastrous Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Du'oh! Of course... Windows XP Pro V2002 Service Pack 3 Vectorworks 2010 SP1 Build 114226 HP Designjet 500PS ..it does appear to be a file-specific problem, in that the previous file created with the same settings prints fine. But when I copy-paste the contents of the not-printing-right document into the file that prints okay, it still prints without text. Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 OK, next question: which Fonts are you using?? Are they the same for both documents? If so I am stumped (not a windows guy...) but if they are different then try changing the non-printing text to the same font as the printing text. Could this have something to do with the fact that your printer in a PS ("post script") printer and you are using a non-post script font?? Also, what if you print to PDF? Does it "print" the text?? I am hoping someone with more windows know how than I will step in... Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 This is odd. Do you have one of the designer version of Vectorworks? Try exporting to PDF and see if the fonts show. If you would like, email the file to me and I'll take a look. Same question as Peter, what font are you using? I'll send you my email address in a PM. Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Oh goodie, I was hoping you would jump in Ray (for those of you who don't know it, Ray is "the guy" when it comes to these sorts of issues!). Quote Link to comment
ionw Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I had this very issue crop up this week. By any chance do you have a worksheet in this document? My schedule sheet exhibited this exact behavior. I had four worksheets, a couple general note objects, details etceteras. I was about to recreate the document, when I remembered seeing this problem long ago. So I started deleting worksheets and choosing print and looking at the preview. The issue was in my material key. I recreated that one worksheet and the document was happy again. as always, your mileage may vary, Ion Quote Link to comment
Kanastrous Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) Thank you everyone for being so generous with your responses. re: exported .pdfs: when I exported a .pdf it opened lacking the text, just like the printed output off the VW document re: font - same font in both files, the printing-with and printing-without re: worksheets: I am working in only one layer and have not made any organizational changes. I ought to clarify that I am a very inexperienced user, to the degree that I don't know how to answer the question. Hopefully this is meaningful: when I came home and opened the document and set it up to print on an 11" x 8.5" page on a home printer (an HP deskjet 3520) the printed portion of the document came out with the text in place as desired. I guess this suggests that there is an issue when printing this particular document on the particular printer in use at my work place. Maybe. Or maybe it means that for some reason the document wasn't opening properly at work, although it was on the same machine. Edited January 31, 2010 by Kanastrous Quote Link to comment
Ozzie Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Kanastrous, what is the font? Quote Link to comment
Kanastrous Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 The font is a TrueType font called 'Frank the Architect.' Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 So, as an experiment, try changing the font and see what happens. This is the sort of problem you need to trouble shoot one item at a time. I seem to remember a while back someone was having a problem because there were two versions of the same font in their system... One was in the "System" fonts and the other in their User font folder. Not saying this is it. Just that it could be... Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I did a search and found a free version of Frank the Architect font. I opened your file and was able to print to both my Brother laser printer and HP DesignJet. I was not able to export PDF, the fonts did not show. If I delete all the dimensions or all of the text the fonts will show on PDF export. If I delete half of the drawing the fonts will show. If I change the font, all fonts show on PDF export. Where did you get the font? Was it free? Quote Link to comment
Ozzie Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Kanastrous, what is the font? What I was getting at Me thinks there are dud fonts out there and one needs to be careful when using them They might look pretty - but Quote Link to comment
Kanastrous Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Okay...changed all text to Arial and everything printed just fine... ...then noted that a couple of dimensions had been left in the Frank the Architect font, and *those* printed just fine, too, along with the majority of text in Arial. My co-worker's theory is that the Frank the Architect font is heavily memory-intensive for the plotter, so that when all is in that font it just gets dumped, but when there's a small quantity of text in that font, the memory can handle it. Does that sound reasonable? Next question: can I change smoothing etc settings in how Vectorworks renders the type? Perhaps I can find a setting that makes the memory overhead of that font manageable... Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Is it a free font? Quote Link to comment
Kanastrous Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Yes, downloaded from here - http://www.fonts101.com/xt_fontdetails_az_FID!40700~Frank_the_Architect~font.html Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 If you go here it's for sale, possibly a better quality font. http://www.fontbros.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=HAFO-FTAR Here is the hand lettered font I use. http://www.will-harris.com/store-h/architect_fonts.htm Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Try the Achitect's Font Pack set of fonts (go here: http://architectsfonts.com/shop/font-pack-p-41.html ) I have never had a problem with any of them, and they look and read pretty good, and are not very expensive.... As Ray sort of implied: stay away from FREE fonts. You DO actually get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment
Kanastrous Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'll try those - thanks! Quote Link to comment
Kanastrous Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 Got that font pack. Very nice, and the price isn't too painful. Thanks! Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment
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